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Old 05-27-2015, 04:00 PM
 
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Which city is better as far as shopping, restaurants, things to do, weather, lower crime and less traffic?
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Old 05-27-2015, 05:50 PM
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If given the choice between these two cities I would go with Albuquerque, though both are a little smaller and lack some amenities that I desire in a city. Albuquerque though is in a beautiful mountain location, has a much nicer climate, and is overall a cleaner, more beautified city. OKC feels a little larger and more urban but its a lot dirtier. In terms of shopping, Albuquerque by miles. Restaurants I am not so sure but would be inclined to lean towards OKC. Traffic I would say OKC probably because both cities are around the same size but this city has a network of highways, spurs, and loops vs Albuquerque being served by only two highways. Bottom line though, its impossible for a Great Plains city like OKC to really compete with beautiful, scenic Albuquerque.
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Old 05-27-2015, 06:18 PM
 
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Albuquerque though is in a beautiful mountain location, has a much nicer climate, and is overall a cleaner, more beautified city. OKC feels a little larger and more urban but its a lot dirtier.
I didn't think Albuquerque was really that clean, in fact it seemed really shabby in appearance in a lot of neighborhoods there. Albuquerque doesn't have any equivalent to Bricktown, Neither city feels all that urban, but OKC has a much better downtown.

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Old 05-27-2015, 06:22 PM
 
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Albuquerque all day, it has culture, scenery, it's exotic, and has some of the best food it's much different and doesn't have tornados.

Albuquerque is much more moderate and laid back and live and let live vs Oklahoma city : Conservative.

Albuquerque also has a mild 4 seasons, nearby casinos, Santa Fe nearby and other unique things.

Oklahoma is flat, humid, in the midwest, flat, humid and in the midwest, need I say more?
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Old 05-27-2015, 06:30 PM
 
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Albuquerque by a mile! My in-laws lived in OKC and I never thought it was great. My son and daughter-in-law live in Albuquerque and it is much better. However, I wouldn't live there
either!!! Better place to visit for me.
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Old 05-27-2015, 10:13 PM
 
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Neither city feels all that urban, but OKC has a much better downtown.
On the other hand, Albuquerque's urban places-downtown, Old Town, etc.-are connected in an urban corridor, Central Avenue.
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Old 05-27-2015, 10:34 PM
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I didn't think Albuquerque was really that clean, in fact it seemed really shabby in appearance in a lot of neighborhoods there. Albuquerque doesn't have any equivalent to Bricktown, Neither city feels all that urban, but OKC has a much better downtown.
It is compared to OKC. OKC has some of the shabbiest, ugliest neighborhoods you will see anywhere. A lot of Albuquerque's nicer neighborhoods are fairly beautified. In OKC there is very little beautification or landscaping anywhere in the city. I do think OKC's downtown wins though. While it leaves a lot to be desired from a big city perspective, you feel a little more like you are in city than you do in Albuquerque. On the flipside, downtown Albuquerque does have quite a bit of charm and character, something that OKC doesn't have. Albuquerque seems a lot more authentic.

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Albuquerque is much more moderate and laid back and live and let live vs Oklahoma city : Conservative.
This is a big one in Albuquerque's favor. OKC has a few purple pockets but in most of the city is so right-wing it makes other "conservative" cities look like San Francisco. Albuquerque is a lot more live and let live.
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Old 05-27-2015, 11:11 PM
 
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I've never been to OKC so it's hard for me to be objective, but..

Albuquerque's weather is really great. I don't think, if you like four seasons, there's very many cities with a better climate. Winters don't get too cold, but we do get the occasional snowstorm, (got 10 inches one day in February, it was all gone by the next day). Fall is perfect, warm to cool afternoons and hot air balloons in the sky in the mornings. Spring is a little windy, but that's really our only questionable season. It really doesn't get that hot in the summers, nothing like Phoenix or Tucson to compare with other SW cities, it hits 100 degrees maybe twice a year. No humidity or tornadoes to worry about like OKC, and we don't get as many earthquakes as Oklahoma in general.

Albuquerque is the only city between Denver, El Paso, Dallas and Phoenix, (all several hundred miles away) and as such we have a pretty decent sample of shopping. Higher-end shopping in ABQ Uptown, Southwestern shopping (turquoise, cowboy hats) in old town, etc.

If you like outdoor activities ABQ is a great place. Hike the Sandias, bike the bosque, climb some volcanoes, and not too far from ski areas like Sandia (very close), Santa Fe or Taos.

Traffic can be bad if you are one side of the river trying to get to the other during rush hours, because there are only like 7 bridges in the city and maybe 10 in the metro altogether. But other than that, being bisected horizontally by I-40 and vertically by I-25 pretty evenly makes getting around town a relative breeze, even if you're going from one far end to the other.

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I didn't think Albuquerque was really that clean, in fact it seemed really shabby in appearance in a lot of neighborhoods there. Albuquerque doesn't have any equivalent to Bricktown, Neither city feels all that urban, but OKC has a much better downtown.
Yeah, downtown ABQ isn't a thing, really. Most people go to Nob Hill or Uptown for eating/drinking/shopping. Just not a whole lot going on down there. But recently Edo (east downtown) has been coming up closer to the University.


Sorry if my syntax in this post is garbage, I'm mostly asleep and procrastinating.
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Old 05-30-2015, 04:50 AM
 
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I've lived in both, and Albuquerque, by far. It's slightly smaller not only as a core city, but also as a metro area, but in my experience Albuquerque offers a bit more than OKC. Albuquerque has an interesting "Old Town" that OKC doesn't. The Albuquerque area is much more compact than the over-bloat that is OKC, so you potentially won't have to go nearly as far to do things. Unique restaurants are easy to find in Albuquerque, and typically have pretty good quality, especially Mexican/Southwestern cuisine. Albuquerque mountains/valleys are much more scenic than OKC horizon. Albuquerque has much better weather too. Both are seasonal, but your risk of losing everything you own to a natural disaster is much lower in Albuquerque. I had to look up crime, but it appears OKC tops Albuquerque in violent crime, property crime, burglary, vehicle theft, murder, rape, robbery and aggravated assault (but Albuquerque tops OKC in larceny). In other words: the crime rate overall is much higher in OKC. I think traffic is worse in Albuquerque. It doesn't have nearly as many freeways and it's much more densely populated (and large parts of Albuquerque have no convenient freeway access). Albuquerque has a skeletal bus system, but OKC has even worse.

I'd also add that New Mexico in general has a more interesting history, more beautiful scenery and more options for trips away from town. To me, Albuquerque seems to have more of a creative and quirky vibe than OKC, plus more personality and more of a soul. The people in Albuquerque are, to me, more agreeable, but they're pretty neurotic and "different" in OKC.
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Old 05-30-2015, 10:07 AM
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I've lived in both, and Albuquerque, by far. It's slightly smaller not only as a core city, but also as a metro area, but in my experience Albuquerque offers a bit more than OKC. Albuquerque has an interesting "Old Town" that OKC doesn't. The Albuquerque area is much more compact than the over-bloat that is OKC, so you potentially won't have to go nearly as far to do things. Unique restaurants are easy to find in Albuquerque, and typically have pretty good quality, especially Mexican/Southwestern cuisine. Albuquerque mountains/valleys are much more scenic than OKC horizon. Albuquerque has much better weather too. Both are seasonal, but your risk of losing everything you own to a natural disaster is much lower in Albuquerque. I had to look up crime, but it appears OKC tops Albuquerque in violent crime, property crime, burglary, vehicle theft, murder, rape, robbery and aggravated assault (but Albuquerque tops OKC in larceny). In other words: the crime rate overall is much higher in OKC. I think traffic is worse in Albuquerque. It doesn't have nearly as many freeways and it's much more densely populated (and large parts of Albuquerque have no convenient freeway access). Albuquerque has a skeletal bus system, but OKC has even worse.

I'd also add that New Mexico in general has a more interesting history, more beautiful scenery and more options for trips away from town. To me, Albuquerque seems to have more of a creative and quirky vibe than OKC, plus more personality and more of a soul. The people in Albuquerque are, to me, more agreeable, but they're pretty neurotic and "different" in OKC.
This is pretty much spot on.

I think for what Albuquerque lacks in urban feel, it makes up for in character and vibe. OKC is pretty much soulless outside of a few places. Plus, there is the overarching advantage of the scenery.

OKC's biggest problem is that it punches significantly below its weight compared to other metro areas in its population range. OKC should be much, much better than it is. In regards to crime, OKC is very mixed-income so you don't have the income segregation that you do in most cities. In theory this is good, but it also comes with the consequence of never being far from high-crime neighborhoods. OKC doesn't have any upscale "nice" areas like other cities do. Albuquerque may have large swaths of stark, run down neighborhoods but it also has some very nice areas.
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