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View Poll Results: Which city to live in?
Las Vegas 57 41.01%
Miami 82 58.99%
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Old 06-11-2015, 12:23 PM
 
Location: Miami Beach, FL/Tokyo, Japan
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SDP, can we just conclude that cityKing is straight up delusional? All credibility lost when you, city, said Los Angeles sucks as a place to live. I would bet my life savings and then some that if given the chance, and if money weren't an issue, almost everyone would rather live in LA than LV.
He is delusional, but I used his post as a good opportunity to show people who never stepped in Miami just what Miami has. A couple stereotypes like Miami is hot (if you find 88-92F hot for 3 months of the year), and is just a night club destination (I pretty much only go to roof tops, lounges or yacht parties and avoid the mega box clubs) need to be killed.
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Old 06-11-2015, 12:30 PM
 
Location: Miami Beach, FL/Tokyo, Japan
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One last comment, the Vegas strip is a wide boulevard with gigantic casino/hotels on each side. Nothing in Vegas feels "urban".

However South Beach is very urban and comparable to many urban neighborhoods up north or in San Francisco. You can live in South Beach without a car if you wanted. I punched in the address of my town house in south beach a while back, and it got a walk score of either 95 or 96.

Besides South Beach, Little Havana, Brickell, and Wynwood are also walkable and more urban than anything you will find in vegas. As well as countless other examples.

At the same time if you want clean, cookie cutter suburbs, Miami has those too. It's called PBC.
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Old 06-11-2015, 12:31 PM
 
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He is delusional, but I used his post as a good opportunity to show people who never stepped in Miami just what Miami has. A couple stereotypes like Miami is hot (if you find 88-92F hot for 3 months of the year), and is just a night club destination (I pretty much only go to roof tops, lounges or yacht parties and avoid the mega box clubs) need to be killed.
The only thing that worries me about moving to Miami is that it just NEVER cools down even in winter. Some winter weather that lets you bundle up is fun, but Miami highs are never under even 70 usually in winter. But I'd take 92 with beaches, some clouds, and thunderstorms over 105-110 with no clouds and sand.
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Old 06-11-2015, 12:33 PM
 
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One last comment, the Vegas strip is a wide boulevard with gigantic casino/hotels on each side. Nothing in Vegas feels "urban".

However South Beach is very urban and comparable to many urban neighborhoods up north or in San Francisco. You can live in South Beach without a car if you wanted. I punched in the address of my town house in south beach a while back, and it got a walk score of either 95 or 96.

Besides South Beach, Little Havana, Brickell, and Wynwood are also walkable and more urban than anything you will find in vegas. As well as countless other examples.

At the same time if you want clean, cookie cutter suburbs, Miami has those too. It's called PBC.
Sounds like cityKing WANTS to live the bland, boring suburban life though. I'd much rather be in Miami Beach where I can walk to tons of places, including a beach. Just like in LA, I ride by beach cruiser to the beach all the time. You can't walk to the mountains in LV in under 10 minutes, or go for a leisurely stroll/ride on the bike path just to get outside.
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Old 06-11-2015, 12:35 PM
 
Location: Miami Beach, FL/Tokyo, Japan
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The only thing that worries me about moving to Miami is that it just NEVER cools down even in winter. Some winter weather that lets you bundle up is fun, but Miami highs are never under even 70 usually in winter. But I'd take 92 with beaches, some clouds, and thunderstorms over 105-110 with no clouds and sand.
Miami gets cold snaps in the winter. Over the course of 1 year (all in the 3 coldest months of the year, December, January and February) you will have maybe 5-6 days that never make it to 70s but instead average in the mid or upper 60s. For us that's cold, and I wear a jacket. Thankfully they quickly go (usually one cold snap lasts 2 days, if it's severe it will last 4 days).

Typical winter day is upper 70s, lower 80s with nighttime low in high 50s or low 60s. But you have to make an allowance for one of these cold snaps. A typical winter we will have 2. On a cold winter, I'd say 4 or 5 of them. On a warm winter, maybe 1.
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Old 06-11-2015, 12:55 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Yes how about QOL?

Vegas is much hotter than Miami, Vegas averages 105F in the summer, Miami averages 90F (in Miami Beach where I live, it's 89F). Miami has never recorded a 100 degree temperature in her existence. Last summer the highest Miami saw was 95F. So far this June, we haven't seen a 90 degree day, all 80s.

Of course, we have humidity. But the humidity here adds about 10F to the "feel" of the air. And if you're on the ocean, there is no effect from the humidity. My ocean facing condo, I don't even AC and I need a comforter to sleep at night in the summer or I'll be cold.
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Also, I wouldn't call 105-120 degree weather for months at a time "moderate" weather, and then in winter LV can drop below freezing. I'd much rather have 95 and humidity. Does Miami even get over 100? Dry heat is falsity IMO. 110 is still 110.
Dry heat is not a falsity. I've been outside at temps much hotter than 110, when the humidity is under 10% it really isn't that bad. Haven't you all ever heard of a heat index?


106 @ 10% humitidy feels like 101. 92 in Miami with what, 55% humidity would also feel like 101.

Sure a thermometer would still say 110, but we humans aren't thermometers. We're living organisms with complex anatomies that perspire. You have to take humidity into account because that affects how our bodies handle the heat.

You can boost Miami all you want, fine I won't argue. It would be like arguing that chocolate is better than vanilla or vice versa. But as far as the heat goes, LV is absolutely no worse than Miami.
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Old 06-11-2015, 01:18 PM
 
Location: Miami Beach, FL/Tokyo, Japan
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106 @ 10% humitidy feels like 101.
Let's use heat index then:

1)Phoenix-Mesa, AZ 97.7
2)Las Vegas-Paradise, NV 94.4
3)Dallas-Fort Worth, TX 92.4
4)Houston, TX 92.3
5)Austin-Round Rock, TX 92.2
6)San Antonio, TX 92.1
7)Miami-Fort Lauderdale, FL 92
8)New Orleans-Metairire, LA 91.7
9)Orlando-Kissimmee, FL 91.6
10)Tampa-St Petersburg, FL 91.5

Sizzling Cities ranked – our new Heat Index « Bert Sperling

These are cities ranked for their summer weather.

First of all, Vegas almost never see's 10% RH, the average is between 20-30% in the summer months. And Miami rarely see's 92, I gave the 88-92 range for a reason. 92 is on the higher end of our range, and happens about as often as you see 112.

Finally, while Vegas comes ahead even in heat index, heat index is just a human model that takes into account just two criteria : air temperature and relative humidity. There are other factors to consider, the strength of the sun, if the day is cloudy, and breezes.

I can tell you from experience that in the summer, Vegas feels a lot worse than Miami in the daytime. I didn't need to look up numbers for that.
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Old 06-11-2015, 01:29 PM
 
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The clouds and thunderstorms in Miami make it more comfortable, to me. And the ocean breezes too.
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Old 06-11-2015, 01:33 PM
 
Location: Miami Beach, FL/Tokyo, Japan
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The clouds and thunderstorms in Miami make it more comfortable, to me. And the ocean breezes too.
Right now it's cloudy, hazy on Miami Beach. People neglect how much the sun heat things up. The sun adds to the "heat index" however in the heat index formula, they don't include it.
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Old 06-11-2015, 03:32 PM
 
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No right or wrong answer, it's what someone perfers.Miami is a more complete city & Vegas is a more 24/7 city,The Vegas strip is arguably the most 24/7 lifestyle & entertainment in America.
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