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View Poll Results: Pittsburgh vs Minneapolis
Pittsburgh 80 41.88%
Mineeapolis 95 49.74%
Both pretty much the same 16 8.38%
Voters: 191. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 06-12-2015, 12:54 PM
 
Location: Bel Air, California
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So what? Winter sucks. Unless you're a little kid, maybe. When we were kids we used to ride sleds down hills like this one:
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.4805...Wve5w3clIw!2e0
Where can kids sled ride in some flat place?
that park looks real nice for the kiddies to go sledding
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Old 06-12-2015, 12:57 PM
 
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First of all, if you're going to mock people for making unenlightened "arguements," you should at least learn how to spell the word. Second of all, yes, that is miserable, and I would not want to live in a place that is that cold, I don't care what else goes on there.
An unenlightened argument is pointing out a typo as your first point.
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Old 06-12-2015, 12:57 PM
 
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So then you feel a thread, Pittsburgh vs. MSP only needs to be decided by which one is colder in January? Lets start a thread comparing your town of Pittsburgh to Jackson MS. Clearly based on your logic Jackson ought to win hands down.

No I"m pretty sure all of this is in response to a few Minneapolis homers stating that their winter is no worse, or is even better. that is what kicked this argument off, which is why it has been so concentrated on winter weather. From most people's perspective, it's an absurd statement.
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Old 06-12-2015, 01:09 PM
 
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So what? Winter sucks. Unless you're a little kid, maybe. When we were kids we used to ride sleds down hills like this one:
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.4805...Wve5w3clIw!2e0
Where can kids sled ride in some flat place?
My point exactly. Perhaps you aren't aware that adults can enjoy winter because you live in Pittsburgh.

And, unless you were sledding down hills taller than 10 story buildings, there is no difference between sledding in Pittsburgh and the Twin Cities. I somehow managed to go sledding where I grew up, just not on streets toward four way intersections.
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Old 06-12-2015, 01:21 PM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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I'm sure that many southerners would say that they could never live in Pittsburgh because it's too cold. And I see their point. I can't stand Pittsburgh winters. But I like old-school city neighborhoods, which don't exist in many warm-weather places in the U.S. Minneapolis not only has even worse winters than Pittsburgh does, but it doesn't seem to offer much in the way of old-school city neighborhoods, either. So I wouldn't want to live there. And that's that.
I don't live in Pittsburgh but I know the town pretty well, having played bar band gigs in some of the local clubs. And fat lou is right. The Burgh has some great old school neighborhoods. Now I've never been to Minneapolis but I have scanned a lot of the city with the street view and I haven't been able to find any neighborhoods comparable to the Southside Flats, Oakland, East Liberty, etc. I've seen lots of very attractive neighborhoods but nothing I would consider "old school" by Eastern standards. Inner ring suburb maybe. Nothing wrong with that. But this is just one strong reason why some of us would prefer the Burgh.

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Old 06-12-2015, 01:31 PM
 
Location: Westside Grand Rapids
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There's nothing wrong with "preferring the Burgh", and you're likely not going to find a bunch of neighborhoods with row homes and such in the Twin Cities. You're unlikely to find them out of the North East in general. Perhaps I don't know what is defined by "Old School" by eastern standards. The Twin Cities emerged in the industrial revolution like all of the major cities of the time. If by "Old School" you mean older neighborhoods with character and unique architecture then I would say you're misinformed. The Twin Cities are full of character.

Just as the Pittsburgh contingent on here gets up in arms when people make assumptions about their city without actually experiencing it. It would seem wise they be objective and give the same courtesy to others.
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Old 06-12-2015, 01:48 PM
 
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I don't live in Pittsburgh but I know the town pretty well, having played bar band gigs in some of the local clubs. And fat lou is right. The Burgh has some great old school neighborhoods. Now I've never been to Minneapolis but I have scanned a lot of the city with the street view and I haven't been able to find any neighborhoods comparable to the Southside Flats, Oakland, East Liberty, etc. I've seen lots of very attractive neighborhoods but nothing I would consider "old school" by Eastern standards. Inner ring suburb maybe. Nothing wrong with that. But this is just one strong reason why some of us would prefer the Burgh.
You're definitely right. Pittsburgh is much holder than Minneapolis, bilt out during a different era, and thus it has more "old school" (if that's your definition of the term - since it differs) neighborhoods than Minneapolis. Minneapolis is not a row house city like Pittsburgh. Minneapolis has I believe one true row house: https://www.google.com/maps/@44.9648...R3DzwZxZoA!2e0

However, Minneapolis and St. Paul both have some old neighborhoods that compare to parts of Pittsburgh's, just no row houses.

Stevens Square, Minneapolis:

https://www.google.com/maps/@44.9639...jbSB8ewkWA!2e0


Summit Hill, St. Paul:

https://www.google.com/maps/@44.9473...6blssVJdFg!2e0

https://www.google.com/maps/@44.9399...dmKbh1_3bg!2e0

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Old 06-12-2015, 01:53 PM
 
Location: Milwaukee
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1. That sledding quote was hilarious. Considering his posts and screen name and the fact that the "hill" was a city road, I refuse to believe that this is a serious poster.

2. For the vast majority of people, 10 degrees warmer in winter, even (and often especially) if it means the snow melts a good bit more, is a vast improvement when you're talking northern weather. However, like mjlo has stated, anyone who slam-dunks Pitt over Minny due to "climate" is being ridiculous.
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Old 06-12-2015, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Bel Air, California
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1. That sledding quote was hilarious. Considering his posts and screen name and the fact that the "hill" was a city road, I refuse to believe that this is a serious poster....
I think it's obvious that Lou is a Minneapolis poster that is trying to denigrate Pitt by finding the most dumpy regions in Pitts and posting them as shining examples of "old-school" housing and neighborhoods.
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Old 06-12-2015, 02:25 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA (Morningside)
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I think it's obvious that Lou is a Minneapolis poster that is trying to denigrate Pitt by finding the most dumpy regions in Pitts and posting them as shining examples of "old-school" housing and neighborhoods.
The neighborhood he linked to is actually rapidly gentrifying. Houses sell for $400,000 within a few blocks of there now.
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