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nightlife
Minneapolis. Performing arts, nightclubs, and recognized foodie scene.
culture
Minneapolis. Hipster/socially liberal - progressive friendly culture. Great beer scene.
shopping
Minneapolis. Invented malls and hosts the Mall of America.
dining
Minneapolis. Getting national recognition as a foodie city with countless craft breweries making great beer and spirits.
scenery
Minneapolis. Picturesque downtown on the Mississippi river, countless lakes and waterfalls. Great urban forestry and nationally acclaimed park system.
outdoor activities
Minneapolis. Only US city included in world's best biking city, top notch trail and park system, also consistently ranked top nationally for most active and fit residents. Year round you will see residents exercising outdoors.
crime rate
Pittsburgh seems to be safer with a lower murder rate.
economy
Minneapolis. Very low unemployment, high wages and affordable housing.
people
Minneapolis. Mn nice might be annoying but at least it's "nice." Mostly attractive people with a relatively fitter and less obese populace.
weather
Minneapolis. Yes the winter sucks but the remainder of the year makes up for it. Pittsburgh has the same seasons we do with very little difference annually.
quality of life
Minneapolis. Google this and let the researchers answer this for you.
I think if you are not even willing to give weather and scenery to Pittsburgh, your opinion must be taken with a pint of salt. And your reasons don't sound very convincing -- "Pittsburgh has the same seasons we do with very little difference annually." Hmm... so that means that MPLS has better weather? You are obviously extremely biased.
They seem very equivalent to me in reading these posts. Both are similar to Seattle in a lot of ways, too, just a side comment. I could happily live in either city!!
Nevertheless, go on Google street view and take a take a look at a random street in Minneapolis: https://www.google.com/maps/@44.9519...4Hl0-G8SWw!2e0
Ugly wood frame buildings on too-wide streets, on land as flat as a pool table. Bland. Midwestern. ****e.
While you may have picked that at random, it is pretty much the worst part of south Minneapolis. You are showing people one of the poorest and most dangerous neighborhoods in Minnesota.
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Nooo I love Midtown!! <//3 It's not as pretty as Uptown but all the best Mexican and African restaurants are in Midtown, and the Global Market, and the May Day Parade. 28th and 26th are just a little neglected between Park and Hiawatha, that's all. You're right that it's a bad example though, most of the city doesn't really look like that. "Too-wide streets" is DEFINITELY not the problem Minneapolis has, most of the streets in south Mpls are a super tight squeeze, especially in winter! This is more what most of south Mpls looks like.
Minneapolis street in pic looks good. However, as long as it'd be safe, I'd say the Pittsburgh street is also extremely aesthetically pleasing and looks like a nice place for a walk with a great view.
Since 2000, the Minneapolis metro area has grown, become wealthier and more educated in the process.
Graduate or professional degree
Minneapolis MSA
2000 Census: 192,396 10.1%
2013 Census: 306,301 13.2%
Graduate or Professional Degree
Pittsburgh MSA
2000 Census: 143,135 8.7%
2013 Census: 210,718 12.5%
Median household income
Minneapolis MSA
2000: $54,304
2013: $67,194
Pittsburgh MSA
2000: $37,467
2013: $51,291
BTW, according to the latest Census estimates (2013), the Minneapolis - St. Paul area had 510,594 residents within the 25 to 34 year old range - an increase 54,424 since 2000. Pittsburgh had 298,123 within the same age range - an increase 13,343 since 2000. Also, the median age in the Minneapolis MSA is 36.6. It's 42.8 in the Pittsburgh MSA.
If you'll notice, the percentage of people with graduate/professional degrees in the Pittsburgh metropolitan area increased enough between 2000 and 2013 that it's only slightly less than the percentage in Minneapolis/St. Paul. It's also worth noting that this is in spite of the older population in Pittsburgh being less educated than average. That means that the younger population is very well-educated.
As for the median age, the city of Pittsburgh is younger now than it was in 2000. In fact, the median age in Pittsburgh is now younger than the national median age for the first time in at least two generations. Allegheny County has largely stopped aging as well. It's the outer metropolitan counties away from the urban core that are old. On a related note, the older population in those counties skews the median income down for the entire metropolitan area, because elderly people tend to live on fixed incomes.
Yeah, that's a student ghetto near the University of Pittsburgh. The city has been butting heads with slumlords who buy clusters of housing near the universities and do nothing to maintain them. These slumlords make all their money once all the good housing nearby is picked over and they have a captive market.
Personally, I've always considered Bloomfield to be the quintessential East End neighborhood in Pittsburgh. It's not wealthy like Squirrel Hill, Shadyside or Point Breeze, and it's not poor like the Hill District, Hazelwood or Homewood. It's not as trendy as Lawrenceville or East Liberty, but it's not as sleepy as Stanton Heights or Greenfield. Anyway, here, here and here are random streets in Bloomfield.
[quote=Craziaskowboi;39932307]If you'll notice, the percentage of people with graduate/professional degrees in the Pittsburgh metropolitan area increased enough between 2000 and 2013 that it's only slightly less than the percentage in Minneapolis/St. Paul. It's also worth noting that this is in spite of the older population in Pittsburgh being less educated than average. That means that the younger population is very well-educated.
As for the median age, the city of Pittsburgh is younger now than it was in 2000. In fact, the median age in Pittsburgh is now younger than the national median age for the first time in at least two generations. Allegheny County has largely stopped aging as well. It's the outer metropolitan counties away from the urban core that are old. On a related note, the older population in those counties skews the median income down for the entire metropolitan area, because elderly people tend to live on fixed incomes.
Yeah, that's a student ghetto near the University of Pittsburgh. The city has been butting heads with slumlords who buy clusters of housing near the universities and do nothing to maintain them. These slumlords make all their money once all the good housing nearby is picked over and they have a captive market.
Personally, I've always considered Bloomfield to be the quintessential East End neighborhood in Pittsburgh. It's not wealthy like Squirrel Hill, Shadyside or Point Breeze, and it's not poor like the Hill District, Hazelwood or Homewood. It's not as trendy as Lawrenceville or East Liberty, but it's not as sleepy as Stanton Heights or Greenfield. Anyway, here, here and here are random streets in Bloomfield.[/quote]
Excellent pics. Pittsburgh does have some great looking neighborhoods.
Not with the sigma the Burgh has attached to it ..... It still has that Steel Collapse, Hell with the lid off, Escape from Pittsburgh, 1980's noose around its neck... Minneapolis doesn't suffer from this, its pretty much an untarnished record of "Steady as She Goes".
I think it's a legitimate match-up between two lesser-known, but equally underrated cities ("equally" meaning also or at the same time, not the same underrated-ness).
Minneapolis street in pic looks good. However, as long as it'd be safe, I'd say the Pittsburgh street is also extremely aesthetically pleasing and looks like a nice place for a walk with a great view.
Pittsburgh has a lot more nice streets to walk on than that. I'll try and rustle up a few.
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