Most urban city outside the top 5 (living, state, places, population)
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I strongly disagree with your premise - San Francisco is relatively small but the majority of it is very walkable and classically urban. Even the Outer Sunset, one of the less urban districts in the city, has neighborhood corridors like this: https://www.google.com/maps/@37.7427...8i6656!6m1!1e1
And SF has a lot of very dense, urban areas outside of the NE quadrant - the Mission, Castro, Haight-Ashbury, Lower-Haight, the Marina, Fillmore, Pacific Heights, Hayes Valley. All very walkable and urban. SF is obviously much smaller than LA but proportionally a much higher percentage of it is walkable and urban.
That's my point though. The first link isn't what I would call an "intense urban environment". It doesn't feel like you're in the big big city.
The 2nd link though is more intense though. I didn't say only the NE quadrant was urbane, but that's where the extremely intense urban environment is where it feels like you're in a very big city.
Nobody's penalizing Los Angeles for not having an urban fabric that spans across 450 miles. I asked for one contiguous square mile with a pedestrian-scaled built environment. That means a streetscape that's not riddled with parking lots, strip malls, drive through restaurants, and super block buildings and structures.
Not even NYC has a completely walkable urban fabric across 303 sq. miles. In the outer boroughs, you have strip malls, wide streets with fast moving traffic, and all other types of auto-oriented development. But NYC obviously has a lot more areas that look like Fulton Street over a largely contiguous footprint.
Uh, downtown LA has an intense urban environment for at least one square mile. I've been to L.A. plenty of times and it has a pretty walkable urban core.
I love this particular photo. One thing I loved about Downtown LA is the historic core. It has a feel to it that no other part of LA does.
Uh, downtown LA has an intense urban environment for at least one square mile. I've been to L.A. plenty of times and it has a pretty walkable urban core.
I love this particular photo. One thing I loved about Downtown LA is the historic core. It has a feel to it that no other part of LA does.
That looks more intense and urbane than the majority of intersections in the entire country. The historic core of LA is pretty built out. Very little surface lots.
Like I said, last time I went to LA, I was very impressed with the historic core of LA, at least in terms of built form and pedestrian mixed uses.
I walked around that neighborhood for a few days recently. It's good urbanity, but not that lively. Still a lot of factories and minimal uses upstairs, and a lot of $49 suits in the windows. That's changing quickly of course. But for now it looks better in an aerial than on the ground.
I walked around that neighborhood for a few days recently. It's good urbanity, but not that lively. Still a lot of factories and minimal uses upstairs, and a lot of $49 suits in the windows. That's changing quickly of course. But for now it looks better in an aerial than on the ground.
yes, I do think it's better than when nobody went down there in the first place. I really like the Broad, and that it's FREE!!! I think the appeal really comes from the Bars and Restaurants. Grimey and all I think DTLA is a really cool place with a lot of stuff to do.
I also really like the Arts District. I remember when I would go to crazy gideons and get cheap prices on electronics. It's no longer there but I like the housing, development, and breweries that is taking place.
Fashion District is nice because you can get new fashion on the cheap. Bought 2 suits that I still wear for $80 dollars. Yeah, I haggled the guy but that's just business.
To sum this up, I like DTLA cause I can get flowers for my mother and get a kickass piñata in the piñata district. I like filling my piñata with little bottles of liquor. I have said too much.
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