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Old 12-20-2015, 09:36 PM
 
Location: Auburn, New York
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Every comparison is going to be somewhat crude and superficial.

Here's what I think are the similarities of Montreal and Brooklyn.

They're not SFH-dominated or "cities of homes" and have somewhat similar housing stock (low rise apartments, triplexes etc.) Montreal is famous for its bagels and smoked meat and its Jewish writers and for being a hipster/artist/creative "mecca."

Brooklyn is obviously bigger scale (as part of NYC), more expensive and far more diverse population. Obviously there are groups in Brooklyn that are not well represented in Montreal, but pretty much every ethnic group that's well represented in Montreal (Italians, Hasidic Jews, Haitians and Arabs) are well represented in Brooklyn too.

Minneapolis? I don't get the comparison with Montreal at all. I think Minneapolis can be compared to a lot of Canadian cities (even Toronto to some degree), but Montreal??? I just don't see it. How many people speak Yiddish, Italian or Haitian Creole in Minneapolis? What areas of Minneapolis resemble the Plateau, the Mile End and Outremont, Cote de Nieges, Park Extension etc.?

Remember that I also said Montreal was Brooklyn and Boston. The Boston comparison comes in for the large number of universities attracting students from across the country and around the world (though Boston is obviously on a bigger scale), as well as for being similar in terms of age and similar stature as cities. Though I can see the case for Philly also.
Dude, you're proving my point.

All of it...

Wittier, Uptown, Lyn-Lake, Lake of the Iles, Seward, Dinkeytown, East Hennipin, parts of Northeast, parts of Longfellow. Selby-Dale, Merriam Park, and Grand Avenue in St. Paul.

https://goo.gl/maps/ma29xtzhcx32
https://goo.gl/maps/p56XfbcvagG2
https://goo.gl/maps/QqNdEJHHipz
https://goo.gl/maps/XsLT4UoKNSA2
https://goo.gl/maps/xtGNL2R8aMk
https://goo.gl/maps/2QBFpNYw9z62

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Old 12-20-2015, 10:18 PM
 
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Dude, you're proving my point.

All of it...

Wittier, Uptown, Lyn-Lake, Lake of the Iles, Seward, Dinkeytown, East Hennipin, parts of Northeast, parts of Longfellow. Selby-Dale, Merriam Park, and Grand Avenue in St. Paul.

https://goo.gl/maps/ma29xtzhcx32
https://goo.gl/maps/p56XfbcvagG2
https://goo.gl/maps/QqNdEJHHipz
https://goo.gl/maps/XsLT4UoKNSA2
https://goo.gl/maps/xtGNL2R8aMk
https://goo.gl/maps/2QBFpNYw9z62
These pics look like many cities I've been in. Are they unique in some way?
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Old 12-21-2015, 08:11 AM
 
Location: East Coast
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Dude, you're proving my point.

All of it...

Wittier, Uptown, Lyn-Lake, Lake of the Iles, Seward, Dinkeytown, East Hennipin, parts of Northeast, parts of Longfellow. Selby-Dale, Merriam Park, and Grand Avenue in St. Paul.

https://goo.gl/maps/ma29xtzhcx32
https://goo.gl/maps/p56XfbcvagG2
https://goo.gl/maps/QqNdEJHHipz
https://goo.gl/maps/XsLT4UoKNSA2
https://goo.gl/maps/xtGNL2R8aMk
https://goo.gl/maps/2QBFpNYw9z62
If you're arguing based on demographics or culture, that's one thing, but going by built form...Minneapolis is NOTHING like Montreal.

Those streets you posted are few and far between, and once you get off the main strip, the neighborhoods look nothing like those in Montreal, and are far less dense (both by population and structurally).
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Old 12-21-2015, 10:13 AM
 
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Minneapolis has more in common with Winnipeg, Edmonton, Calgary and Ottawa than it does with Montreal.
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Old 12-21-2015, 11:21 AM
 
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Summing up so far...

Toronto: Queens NY and Chicago. Toronto and the borough of Queens were largely built up around the same time, they're quite similar demographically and Queens is skewed more towards SFHs and big apartments than the rest of NYC (i.e. more like Toronto). Chicago for the grid pattern, similar age and stature and Great Lakes location.

Montreal: Brooklyn and Boston. Brooklyn for built form (lowrise apartment density), to some extent demographics and arts/culture/hipster mecca. Boston in terms of stature and national/international student presence.

Vancouver: Seattle and San Francisco. Resembles San Francisco in terms of density, large Chinese population, very expensive housing, location on peninsula, famous bridges etc. More akin to Seattle in terms of history, stature and geography (Vancouver is far more similar to Seattle than other Canadian cities are to the closest American major cities: Winnipeg is to Minneapolis-St. Paul and Toronto to Buffalo, Cleveland and Detroit).

Calgary: Denver. Rocky Mountain cities that look quite similar and are quite prosperous. Obviously demographics are different but are both pretty "typical" (i.e. Denver as a southwestern US city, Calgary as a city in Western Canada).

Winnipeg: Minneapolis and Omaha. Seems like a bit of a more blue collar Minneapolis, Minneapolis also has a quite sizable urban Native American population. Omaha as a "gateway to the West"/Great Plains city.

Hamilton: Pittsburgh, Buffalo and the Lehigh Valley PA. A "rust belt" city, yet in the shadow of Toronto.

London: Columbus, Ohio. Pretty "ordinary" middle Canadian/American city, with major university.

Windsor: It's just the Canadian extension of metro Detroit.

Halifax: Portland, Maine. Highly educated cities, fairly similar in size, largest city in Maritimes/Maine respectively (Maine being the "bridge" between the Canadian Maritimes and New England).

Regina: A bigger Bismarck - Great Plains capital city in a state/province that have seen resource boom.

Kingston: Burlington, Vermont. Lakefront cities with large university presence and very vibrant downtowns.

Kelowna: Bend, Oregon is an excellent comparison and I'm stealing it!

Niagara Falls: Niagara Falls NY for the falls, Atlantic City for casinos, glitz etc.

I don't really have anything for Ottawa, Edmonton, Saskatoon, Kitchener-Waterloo, Victoria or St. John's though.
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Old 12-21-2015, 11:33 AM
 
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Old 12-22-2015, 12:34 PM
 
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If you're arguing based on demographics or culture, that's one thing, but going by built form...Minneapolis is NOTHING like Montreal.

Those streets you posted are few and far between, and once you get off the main strip, the neighborhoods look nothing like those in Montreal, and are far less dense (both by population and structurally).
45% of Minneapolis residents live in detached houses, compared to 7.5% in Montreal. For all SFHs, the figures are 49% and 14%, respectively.
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Old 12-22-2015, 12:46 PM
 
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Montreal is nothing like Brooklyn. Montreal has a much smaller black population than Brooklyn and there never was white flight like there was in Brooklyn
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Old 12-22-2015, 12:52 PM
 
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Montreal is nothing like Brooklyn. Montreal has a much smaller black population than Brooklyn and there never was white flight like there was in Brooklyn
Then it's nothing like any US city.
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Old 12-22-2015, 02:14 PM
 
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another thing boston and montreal have in common is that people seem to think that neither city has a black population.
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