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View Poll Results: Is Washignton DC America's Real Second City
Washington DC is America's New Second City 19 13.87%
DC will surpass Chicago In Importance but not L.A 24 17.52%
DC will surpass L.A in Importance but not Chicago 2 1.46%
No Way! DC will not pass Neither LA or Chicago 92 67.15%
Voters: 137. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-11-2015, 06:08 PM
 
Location: Baltimore, MD
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I agree with the people who say none of these cities are comparable to LA. LA will be #2 for a long time. This "Bash on LA"month from mostly SF sympathizers is reaching unsympathetic proportions....

Also, I understand that SF is the center of the larger Bay Area region, over 8 million people. However, is Bay Area and San Francisco really interchangeable as its used on here?
Supposedly, despite the fact that they literally have sports teams that play against each other, competing municipalities with different agendas, and cities with strong identities. While I don't doubt the Bay's overall interconnectivity as one region, I don't think it's as buddy buddy as they make it seem.

Also agree with previous posters that it's randomly now bash L.A. month. Guess Chicago is now old hat. Who's next? I nominate Boston. You guys aren't building like NYC/Toronto, innovating like SF, and have lost cultural influence with Ted 2's failure and Brady's suspension. Lol...
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Old 08-11-2015, 06:08 PM
 
Location: Seattle aka tier 3 city :)
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^^^lol
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Old 08-11-2015, 06:38 PM
 
Location: Zurich, Switzerland/ Piedmont, CA
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San Francisco posters always running to grab a CSA stats.
So what?

CSA is the largest city-level statistical area.

According to the Office of Management and Budget:
Combined Statistical Areas can be characterized as representing larger regions that reflect broader social and economic interactions, such as wholesaling, commodity distribution, and weekend recreation activities, and are likely to be of considerable interest to regional authorities and the private sector.

It's not some nefarious scheme.

The OMB goes on to say:
A Combined Statistical Area may comprise two or more Metropolitan Statistical Areas, a Metropolitan Statistical Area and a Micropolitan Statistical Area, two or more Micropolitan Statistical Areas, or multiple Metropolitan and Micropolitan Statistical Areas that have social and economic ties as measured by commuting, but at lower levels than are found among counties within Metropolitan and Micropolitan Statistical Areas.
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Old 08-11-2015, 07:06 PM
 
Location: East Central Pennsylvania/ Chicago for 6yrs.
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I agree with the people who say none of these cities are comparable to LA. LA will be #2 for a long time. This "Bash on LA"month from mostly SF sympathizers is reaching unsympathetic proportions....

Also, I understand that SF is the center of the larger Bay Area region, over 8 million people. However, is Bay Area and San Francisco really interchangeable as its used on here?

@the resident, man, even DC CITY can compete or is arguably greater than Chicago in terms of urban amenities and quality of life. People are yet to show me how Chicago, whether City or Metro, is so far ahead of Washington City or Metro. By what metric?
By this metric⤵......I think this picture alone of much of it truly Urban amenities and Urban housing that would keep Chicago well ahead.

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Old 08-11-2015, 07:38 PM
 
Location: MPLS/CHI
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So what?

CSA is the largest city-level statistical area.

According to the Office of Management and Budget:
Combined Statistical Areas can be characterized as representing larger regions that reflect broader social and economic interactions, such as wholesaling, commodity distribution, and weekend recreation activities, and are likely to be of considerable interest to regional authorities and the private sector.

It's not some nefarious scheme.

The OMB goes on to say:
A Combined Statistical Area may comprise two or more Metropolitan Statistical Areas, a Metropolitan Statistical Area and a Micropolitan Statistical Area, two or more Micropolitan Statistical Areas, or multiple Metropolitan and Micropolitan Statistical Areas that have social and economic ties as measured by commuting, but at lower levels than are found among counties within Metropolitan and Micropolitan Statistical Areas.
That's stating the obvious reasons. Its still a broader measurement than the MSA, which I feel is more accurate and the OMB even stated its the standard. I get that its the only way to make San Francisco look good and you always make good points, but you always seem to lean on CSA.
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Old 08-11-2015, 07:58 PM
 
Location: Zurich, Switzerland/ Piedmont, CA
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DC shrinks a bit when you subtract the taxpayer supported part of their economy.

Private Industry GDP, 2013
New York CSA $1.524 Trillion
Los Angeles CSA $893.456 Billion
San Francisco CSA $606.682 Billion
Chicago CSA $544.679 Billion
Washington DC CSA $512.909 Billion
Houston CSA $487.714 Billion
Boston CSA $456.547 Billion
Dallas CSA $419.167 Billion
Philadephia CSA $386.328 Billion
Atlanta CSA $293.038 Billion
Seattle CSA $269.975 Billion
Miami CSA $266.338 Billion
Detroit CSA $236.439 Billion
Phoenix MSA $188.581 Billion
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Old 08-12-2015, 08:29 PM
 
Location: San Francisco/East Bay and Los Angeles, formerly DC and Boston
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DC lacks innovation in spite of high levels of education.

The HQ to 1/4 of the market valuation of all U.S. stocks, SF is the 2nd most important region now.
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Old 08-12-2015, 09:28 PM
 
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DC lacks innovation in spite of high levels of education.

The HQ to 1/4 of the market valuation of all U.S. stocks, SF is the 2nd most important region now.
The "high levels of education" consists of a lot of BAs and MAs in the humanities and social sciences, aiming to go into gov't, think tanks, gov't consulting, etc.; I don't expect a ton of technological innovation from them

SF/SV is the inverse; a lot of STEMs, including PhDs in engineering and computer science
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Old 08-14-2015, 09:29 AM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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Just so's ya know, Chicago is called the Second City because the first one burned down in 1871.
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Old 08-14-2015, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Milwaukee
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Just so's ya know, Chicago is called the Second City because the first one burned down in 1871.
Yup. And it's called the "Windy City" due to gabby politicians - it's average in terms of wind.
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