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View Poll Results: Which city?
Birmingham, AL 44 41.51%
Rochester, NY 62 58.49%
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Old 06-14-2016, 07:01 PM
 
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There are several that I know of that you describe.
Really, Several? its comparable to Pike Place or Cleveland's West Side Market? I would be surprised if a city the size of Birmingham had several of these kinds of places.
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Old 06-14-2016, 08:30 PM
 
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Really, Several? its comparable to Pike Place or Cleveland's West Side Market? I would be surprised if a city the size of Birmingham had several of these kinds of places.
Wait. I thought we were talking about Rochester, not Cleveland and Seattle. So let's try not to move the goalposts, please. While I have been to Rochester during my consulting days with Xerox (Nice town, by the way) I haven't visited the local farmer's markets. But we have Pepper Place and at least one other just in the city itself, with several more out in the suburbs. They are large, with live music, cooking classes, trades, bands, etc., chiefly because Birmingham has a very strong farm-to-table movement that feeds its restaurant scene. Help me understand why you're so surprised, given that the metro area has about 100,000 more people than Rochester's.

In fact, just because your entire criteria seems to hinge on farmers markets, I guess I need to point out that two Birmingham markets made The Daily List's 100 best Farmer's Markets, whatever that means. Heck, who would have thought somebody would make a list anyway? And, actually, something like the Pike's Street Market is being built in downtown Birmingham right now.

http://www.thedailymeal.com/101-best...ets-in-america

THE MARKET AT PEPPER PLACE

Oh, one other thing I noticed in one of your earlier posts. Do you really think our restaurant scene consists of soul food restaurants and barbecue joints? http://www.bizjournals.com/birmingha...nd-coming.html

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Old 06-14-2016, 11:00 PM
 
Location: Nashville, TN
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Downtown: Rochester
Nightlife: Rochester
Schools (K-12): Rochester
Schools (College): Rochester
Suburbs: Birmingham
Shopping: Birmingham
Dining: Birmingham
Crime: Rochester
Cost of Living: Birmingham
Sports: Rochester
Transportation: Rochester
Infrastructure: Rochester

Rochester would be my choice because it appears to be better all around. I like the setting of the city.
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Old 06-15-2016, 03:02 AM
 
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Does Birmingham have a match for the Rochester Public Market? Its a pretty large farmers market with some other things, like clothes and knick naks and such. They have bandstands and food truck rodeos on select days, and other things.
Here are some other farmers markets in the Rochester area: Rochester area farmers markets | democratandchronicle.com
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Old 06-15-2016, 03:11 AM
 
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Wait. I thought we were talking about Rochester, not Cleveland and Seattle. So let's try not to move the goalposts, please. While I have been to Rochester during my consulting days with Xerox (Nice town, by the way) I haven't visited the local farmer's markets. But we have Pepper Place and at least one other just in the city itself, with several more out in the suburbs. They are large, with live music, cooking classes, trades, bands, etc., chiefly because Birmingham has a very strong farm-to-table movement that feeds its restaurant scene. Help me understand why you're so surprised, given that the metro area has about 100,000 more people than Rochester's.

In fact, just because your entire criteria seems to hinge on farmers markets, I guess I need to point out that two Birmingham markets made The Daily List's 100 best Farmer's Markets, whatever that means. Heck, who would have thought somebody would make a list anyway? And, actually, something like the Pike's Street Market is being built in downtown Birmingham right now.

101 Best Farmers Markets in America for 2015

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Oh, one other thing I noticed in one of your earlier posts. Do you really think our restaurant scene consists of soul food restaurants and barbecue joints? http://www.bizjournals.com/birmingha...nd-coming.html
I think he meant if you want that type of food, that Birmingham would be better in that regard. With that said, I'm sure it has more than that and Rochester does have its share of Soul Food, Caribbean and BBQ spots as well: Southern Cuisine - Rochester Wiki

Caribbean Food - Rochester Wiki

BBQ - Rochester Wiki

People may not realize that Rochester has one of the highest Black percentages for a major/mid-major city in the Northeast at around 42% or so. Only Newark and Philadelphia, with maybe a few smaller cities, having a higher percentage. So, finding that type of cuisine shouldn't really be that big of a surprise.

Here are some more good choices: Restaurants - Rochester Wiki

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Old 06-15-2016, 05:45 AM
 
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Wait. I thought we were talking about Rochester, not Cleveland and Seattle. So let's try not to move the goalposts, please. While I have been to Rochester during my consulting days with Xerox (Nice town, by the way) I haven't visited the local farmer's markets. But we have Pepper Place and at least one other just in the city itself, with several more out in the suburbs. They are large, with live music, cooking classes, trades, bands, etc., chiefly because Birmingham has a very strong farm-to-table movement that feeds its restaurant scene. Help me understand why you're so surprised, given that the metro area has about 100,000 more people than Rochester's.

In fact, just because your entire criteria seems to hinge on farmers markets, I guess I need to point out that two Birmingham markets made The Daily List's 100 best Farmer's Markets, whatever that means. Heck, who would have thought somebody would make a list anyway? And, actually, something like the Pike's Street Market is being built in downtown Birmingham right now.

101 Best Farmers Markets in America for 2015

THE MARKET AT PEPPER PLACE

Oh, one other thing I noticed in one of your earlier posts. Do you really think our restaurant scene consists of soul food restaurants and barbecue joints? http://www.bizjournals.com/birmingha...nd-coming.html
No, I said Birmingham would have the clear edge in Southern soul food, not that that was the only food around. Everything else I would assume would be pretty close, not that I've fully sampled either city, but they seem similar.
I am aware Birmingham is a mid-sized city.
It is actually quite unique in the south in its industrial past. Other than some much smaller Piedmont cities, most other older southern cities are Rivertowns (New Orleans, Memphis), or port towns (Savannah, Charleston).

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Old 06-15-2016, 12:06 PM
 
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If you want to call some one immature you should at least spell it right.

As I said I grew up in the borderline south. I like southern cooking just fine. But in general it leads to weakness in the myriad of other cuisines. Sorry about that but pretty broadly true.

That opinion is based on 40 years of extensively traveling the country.
Eating in Olive Gardens doesn't count.

Look, I get it. I've been to Rochester. Eaten at some really good restaurants. Would I compare it to Birmingham? No.

http://www.bizjournals.com/birmingha...nd-coming.html

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Old 06-15-2016, 12:35 PM
 
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Eating in Olive Gardens doesn't count.

Look, I get it. I've been to Rochester. Eaten at some really good restaurants. Would I compare it to Birmingham? No.

http://www.bizjournals.com/birmingha...nd-coming.html
Other than southern food where does Birmingham surpass Rochester?
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Old 06-15-2016, 01:04 PM
 
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Other than southern food where does Birmingham surpass Rochester?
Well, besides the fact that we have two or three chefs from different restaurants as perennial finalists the Beard awards? And they're not running barbecue stands.
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Old 06-15-2016, 01:09 PM
 
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Well, besides the fact that we have two or three chefs from different restaurants as perennial finalists the Beard awards? And they're not running barbecue stands.
Again, what cuisine?
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