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View Poll Results: Which city?
Birmingham, AL 44 41.51%
Rochester, NY 62 58.49%
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Old 06-15-2016, 01:39 PM
 
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Again, what cuisine?
French, Creole, American, Italian, Brazilian, Vietnamese, Korean, Mediterranean, Latino, etc.

But aside from being captious, what's your point? I mean, hey, we've already provided you with a number of links on this thread about both the quality and variety of dining in the city. I mean, when Zagat's, Food & Wine, and a number of other industry organs singles your city out for the scope and quality of dining, that's not exactly faint praise.
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Old 06-15-2016, 01:47 PM
 
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French, Creole, American, Italian, Brazilian, Vietnamese, Korean, Mediterranean, Latino, etc.

But aside from being captious, what's your point? I mean, hey, we've already provided you with a number of links on this thread about both the quality and variety of dining in the city. I mean, when Zagat's, Food & Wine, and a number of other industry organs singles your city out for the scope and quality of dining, that's not exactly faint praise.
You posted one link twice.
Does Birmingham have a signature dish like the Garbage Plate?
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Old 06-15-2016, 01:53 PM
 
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Does Birmingham have a signature dish like the Garbage Plate?
Seriously? You're reduced to that as an argument? One dish? Kind of like Tomato pie? Hoppin' John? Fried green tomatoes?
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More museums in the Rochester area: Museums - Rochester Wiki
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Old 06-15-2016, 03:55 PM
 
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Seriously? You're reduced to that as an argument? One dish? Kind of like Tomato pie? Hoppin' John? Fried green tomatoes?
Fried Green Tomatoes, and those other things are general southern food is not a Birmingham dish, that is southern.
I am actually curious is Birmingham has something you can't find anywhere else, like a Garbage Plate, that is something I had never heard of until I went to Rochester for the first time.
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Old 06-15-2016, 05:36 PM
 
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I'm also wondering what Birmingham has in comparison to Rochester for outdoor recreation.
Within the City Rochester has the Erie Canal and Genesee River Trails. It also has a beach on Lake Ontario.
You can boat on the Genesee but there is two waterfalls and a dam along the River in Downtown Rochester that splits the river into two navigable parts.
Also about 45 minutes South of Rochester, up the Genesee there is Letchworth State Park, known as the Grand Canyon of the east, which is amazing for hiking and such.
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Fried Green Tomatoes, and those other things are general southern food is not a Birmingham dish, that is southern.
I am actually curious is Birmingham has something you can't find anywhere else, like a Garbage Plate, that is something I had never heard of until I went to Rochester for the first time.
The closest thing I would think of is a Birmingham hotdog. A lot of the food culture in Birmingham is tied to Greek immigrants when the city was first founded. In order to meet the demands of the customers at the time, the Greeks started making southern barbecue. So there's different degrees of fusion between Mediterranean and Southern for the city's more traditional fare. (Many, if not most, of the city's favorite barbecue joints are still owned by Greeks.) Taziki's and Zoe's Kitchen are two casual food-chains that started in Birmingham (If you're ever in Birmingham, Purple Onion is the best casual Greek chain, imo.).

Birmingham's more gourmet food starts with Frank Stitt in the early 80's, which more of a merger of Southern + French. Many of the other restaurants were started by chefs who were influenced by Stitt.

Edit: For outdoor stuff there's Ruffner Mountain and Red Mountain Park within the city limits. Oak Mountain and Tannehill are a few miles outside the beltline as well. There's canoeing on the Cahaba, but there's not much heavier use for ecological concerns (It's quite biodiverse with many endangered species.).

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Old 06-16-2016, 01:59 PM
 
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The closest thing I would think of is a Birmingham hotdog. A lot of the food culture in Birmingham is tied to Greek immigrants when the city was first founded. In order to meet the demands of the customers at the time, the Greeks started making southern barbecue. So there's different degrees of fusion between Mediterranean and Southern for the city's more traditional fare. (Many, if not most, of the city's favorite barbecue joints are still owned by Greeks.) Taziki's and Zoe's Kitchen are two casual food-chains that started in Birmingham (If you're ever in Birmingham, Purple Onion is the best casual Greek chain, imo.).

Birmingham's more gourmet food starts with Frank Stitt in the early 80's, which more of a merger of Southern + French. Many of the other restaurants were started by chefs who were influenced by Stitt.

Edit: For outdoor stuff there's Ruffner Mountain and Red Mountain Park within the city limits. Oak Mountain and Tannehill are a few miles outside the beltline as well. There's canoeing on the Cahaba, but there's not much heavier use for ecological concerns (It's quite biodiverse with many endangered species.).
Birmingham certainly does have an impressive array of City parks.
How about festivals/events?
Rochester's largest festivals are the Lilac Festival in May and Jazz Fest in June/July. Both draw 100,000s into Rochester.
There is an array of smaller festivals throughout the year, mostly in the warmer months.
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Old 06-16-2016, 02:25 PM
 
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I'm also wondering what Birmingham has in comparison to Rochester for outdoor recreation.
Within the City Rochester has the Erie Canal and Genesee River Trails. It also has a beach on Lake Ontario.
You can boat on the Genesee but there is two waterfalls and a dam along the River in Downtown Rochester that splits the river into two navigable parts.
Also about 45 minutes South of Rochester, up the Genesee there is Letchworth State Park, known as the Grand Canyon of the east, which is amazing for hiking and such.
The deepest canyon in the eastern half of the United States is sixty minutes from Birmingham, otherwise known as Little River Canyon (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little...ional_Preserve). Three national forests, a host of state parks, three sprawling lakes, rivers, mountains, the Alabama River Trail, Locust Fork, Horsepens Forty, and the Gulf four hours away. I'm pretty sure those are equal. Plus we have an outdoor season that essentially lasts all year long. https://rootsrated.com/birmingham-al

Festivals? No shortage there, either. This list only hits the highlights. http://birminghamal.org/events/2016-...ham-festivals/

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Old 06-16-2016, 03:08 PM
 
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Birmingham certainly does have an impressive array of City parks.
How about festivals/events?
Rochester's largest festivals are the Lilac Festival in May and Jazz Fest in June/July. Both draw 100,000s into Rochester.
There is an array of smaller festivals throughout the year, mostly in the warmer months.
Yeah, I think Cobbs Hill Park may be the closest thing to those in Rochester.

Rochester does have the Erie Canal towns(villages of Pittsford, Fairport, Spencerport and Brockport) where there are cruises, boating and walkability within each of these smaller communities.

High Falls in Downtown Rochester is something that is pretty unique as well. There is also the Lower Falls within city limits: Lower Falls - Rochester Wiki

Middle Falls - Rochester Wiki

High Falls - Rochester Wiki

All are in the Genesee River.

More waterfalls: Waterfalls - Rochester Wiki

You also have a community like Webster and neighborhoods next to Lake Ontario as well.

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