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Old 12-29-2015, 05:29 PM
 
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Assuming New York=Manhattan below 96th or so, and Chicago = Loop + River North + Gold coast (basically the very dense, upscale & corporate parts of town:

Chicago's streets & sidewalks feel to me a little wider, less crowded, and don't have areas of winding/twisty streets like what you see in lower Manhattan's FiDi. More foreign/international crowd in NYC. NYC is dirtier-more trash, noise, etc.
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Old 12-30-2015, 12:32 AM
 
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I'll never understand why so many feel that living as a sardine is preferable. Seriously, I'll never be convinced.
Because they don't live like a sardine? US cities aren't slums. That's so ignorant. Go visit an overcrowded slum and you'll know what living like a sardine really is.
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Old 12-30-2015, 12:46 PM
 
Location: Prince George's County, Maryland
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Because they don't live like a sardine? US cities aren't slums. That's so ignorant. Go visit an overcrowded slum and you'll know what living like a sardine really is.
This. Most definitely this.
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Old 12-30-2015, 01:19 PM
 
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Because they don't live like a sardine? US cities aren't slums. That's so ignorant. Go visit an overcrowded slum and you'll know what living like a sardine really is.
You don't have to lower yourself to name-calling. You don't even know me, so to assume I'm ignorant is, well, not that smart. Anyway, my definition of living like a sardine, and yours, may differ. Enough said.
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Old 12-30-2015, 01:24 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, New York
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You don't have to lower yourself to name-calling. You don't even know me, so to assume I'm ignorant is, well, not that smart. Anyway, my definition of living like a sardine, and yours, may differ. Enough said.
What if someone lives in a bigger apartment than your house, do they still live like a sardine? What if they live in an apartment that is 5 times bigger in livable square footage than your house?

Ah yes, and don't forget the sardine views, I am sure you can get the same standard of living in suburbia:

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Old 12-30-2015, 01:28 PM
 
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What if someone lives in a bigger apartment than your house, do they still live like a sardine? What if they live in an apartment that is 5 times bigger in livable square footage than your house?

Ah yes, and don't forget the sardine views:
Yes, most live like that....right?
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Old 12-30-2015, 01:41 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, New York
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Yes, most live like that....right?
About a third of the people in the city.. yes, another third lives in single family homes/townhouses/brownstones/etc similar in style to the suburbs, and another third is too poor to pick where they live.
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Old 12-30-2015, 01:45 PM
 
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NYC, contrary to stereotype, actually has very few sardine-like apartments.

Most living spaces are small, but ultra-tiny living spaces, like you see in Japan, or Hong Kong, or even Western Europe, have been illegal in NYC for about 70 years now. So lots of little spaces but really almost no Tokyo style micro-apartments.

New construction housing in NYC tends to actually have quite large units, larger than in most U.S. urban areas, but that isn't necessarily a good thing; it's just big spaces geared towards the wealthy.
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Old 12-30-2015, 01:53 PM
 
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About a third of the people in the city.. yes, another third lives in single family homes/townhouses/brownstones/etc similar in style to the suburbs, and another third is too poor to pick where they live.
One third is a LOT of people. Anyway, I love Zillow, and am on it a lot. The rents, or purchase prices, border on the ridiculous. I like a big house with a big yard, and I'm allowed to. I don't have to defend my preference, or that I like space. Maybe not your preference, but certainly, not wrong.
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Old 12-30-2015, 02:09 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, New York
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One third is a LOT of people. Anyway, I love Zillow, and am on it a lot. The rents, or purchase prices, border on the ridiculous. I like a big house with a big yard, and I'm allowed to. I don't have to defend my preference, or that I like space. Maybe not your preference, but certainly, not wrong.
Thats the point, its all about preference. You like living in the suburbs, some other people like living in urban areas. Both instances have their pros and cons. No need to put down and insult people who prefer different style of living to yours, calling it "living like sardines".

Its not like most people "who live like sardines" can't afford suburbs, sardine living is much more expensive.
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