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Old 08-25-2015, 12:09 PM
 
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I always associate Elvis in Tennessee with Nashville because it's the country music epicenter.
Really? Over Memphis? Where his home was and the city that's the home of rock and roll, the genre of music Elvis is known for?

 
Old 08-25-2015, 12:11 PM
 
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Really? Over Memphis? Where his home was and the city that's the home of rock and roll, the genre of music Elvis is known for?
LOL, right. He's just being difficult on purpose.

Try telling somebody in Nashville that people think of Elvis when they think of Nashville before they think of country music, and you will get laughed right out of Middle Tennessee, and also probably get told to hit I-40 West and to "go back to Memphis"...

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Old 08-25-2015, 12:16 PM
 
Location: Willowbend/Houston
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Not to Millennials. Unless they watched re-runs on SoapNet, they have no idea about that nighttime soap opera. "Who Shot J.R.?" is a lost pun to the younger ones. The recent revival didn't have much of a following.

There was a soap opera about Houston called "Texas".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_(TV_series)

Cowboys are being overshadowed by The Steelers right now. I don't even want to see the backlash from Dallasites if Arian Foster came out as an Atheist as a Cowboy instead of as a Texan. After all, it is the centre of the Bible Belt and home to the Southern Baptists' regional seminary.

Houston is more catholic than evangelical, so there was no backlash since catholic ethics emphasize conscience over conformity. After all, the city has a cardinal as the archbishop and the largest Episcopal parish in the world with a few famous Houstonians as parishioners.

Everybody remembers the "wardrobe malfunction" that happened here. To answer your last question, Houston was synonymous with space in the '60s. Most people equate NASA with Houston still to this day with all the shuttle launches and astronauts living and training in Clear Lake.
This post made me want to vomit.

So much mis-information about Dallas in here that its obvious youre either really clueless or trying to be difficult.

Wanna know what the reaction in Dallas would be if the Cowboys running back was an atheist? THE EXACT SAME REACTION YOU GOT IN HOUSTON.

Ive lived in both and Houstonians have this absolutely ridiculous idea that Houston is so much more open minded than Dallas. Hate to brake it to you, it isnt. Its six one way, half a dozen the other. They are the same in this reguard and thats all there is to it.
 
Old 08-25-2015, 12:21 PM
 
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More people associate Elvis with Vegas due to the bumper crop of impersonators on the sidewalks and the nostalgia of the less expensive Vegas of the '70s
I disagree. While I guess both Memphis and Las Vegas could be acceptable answers for Elvis, I wouldn't say that most people associate Elvis with Vegas before they do with Memphis. Hundreds of thousands of people visit Memphis each year from all over the world just to see Graceland (Elvis' home) and other Elvis related things. Graceland is the second most visited residence in the entire U.S., behind the White House. On the other hand, nobody visits Vegas with the specific purpose of going to see Elvis impersonators. If I tell somebody I'm from Memphis, usually "Elvis!" or "Graceland!" is one of the first things they say in response. If I mention Vegas to somebody, Elvis never comes up.
 
Old 08-25-2015, 12:32 PM
 
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Speaking of Memphis (Elvis/Graceland, Beale Street, Stax Records, Dr. MLK/National Civil Rights Museum), Nashville (Country Music Mecca), and Las Vegas (Casinos!!!), they all have something that make them unique, make them popular and big tourist draws to people from all over the world, and that conjure up certain images and branding when people hear their names. What does Houston have that does that (or that the city has AT LEAST marketed in a manner that will do that)? Once again, this is the answer to the OP's question. I don't know why this thread is still going in circles when the answer is so clear.

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Old 08-25-2015, 12:41 PM
 
Location: East Central Pennsylvania/ Chicago for 6yrs.
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Well, just like Philly has its own unique brand of history that makes it special, the history, and amenities that are seen in Houston have their own unique brand found only in Houston, and nowhere else.
So it still stands that the argument for Houston "not being unique because other cities have what it has," is bogus.
Fair enough.

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LOL, these two cities are similar but are hardly clones of each other but I won't get into that here. The two don't offer the exact same sort of experience.

Just like Houston doesn't offer the same sort of experience as "30 or 40 other cities," to quote.

Now are you starting to see why the arguments for Houston not being unique are bogus?

Alcatraz, Golden Gate, Financial district, Fisherman's Wharf, Chinatown, etc are all attractions San Francisco has; but, at basic, they are basically, in order, a prison, a bridge, a district, a wharf, and an enclave. Lots of cities have each of those basic things. However, the allure for San Francisco's areas come from the imagery, brand, vibe, and experience associated with them, not necessarily for the concrete areas themselves.

Houston already has a decent number of areas where the unique vibe, brand, imagery, and experience associated with the city play out. You will not find Houston's specific Discovery Green, Theater District, Nasa space center, historical aspects, urban neighborhoods, etc in any other city in the country. What I did was reveal the REAL reason for Houston's overlook; not because it lacks anything unique, contrary to popular belief, but because the public isn't thoroughly exposed to the unique brand of the city.
You REALLY DO NOT GET IT. There is NO other GOLDEN GATE in such a setting. Philly's Ben Franklin looks similar from a distance. But going over it NO. SF's Bridge is PERFECTION and ART and ROMANCE.
No other Alcatraz a ISLAND Prison. Fisherman's Wharf is its own.

I normally do not defend SF. But to lessen its warrant to boost far lessor known Houston ones YOU DO NOT MENTION LIKE THEIRS? Saying many other city's have their comparable? IS WRONG.
Apparently You have no understanding of AESTHETICS and VISUAL Stimulation that WOWS not just NICE and OK? It matters and first impressions too.

They give a City THAT EDGE. That going home and WANTING TO SAY IT WAS AWESOME. A fellow employed at work. Visited Chicago to go to a Cub's and Sox Game. He also went to a Theater Play and walked Downtown. His impression of Wrigley Field was Awesome. He attended the "Taste of Chicago" festival. Raved about the food they sampled and the Grand setting and Skyline. Best $50 bucks for the festival Food He said he ever Spent.

That is what increases Stature a city gains in Reputation over merely stereotypes. So HOUSTON NEEDS MORE OF THE SAME GIVEN TO VISITORS.

Yn0hTnA You AGAIN brought up Philly too? Yes it has the nations historic sights right downtown and some original colonial neighborhoods. So does Boston. If Houston had the Alamo? It had something close. BUT WHAT HISTORY IN HOUSTON ON PAR WITH PHILLY BACK TO THE 1700s?

You can't lessen other city's EARNED ATTRIBUTES AND VISUAL REPUTATION. As a ....oh other city's have similar too... so? Expect it HELPS HOUSTON? NO

List all that GREAT TOURIST SIGHTS WE SHOULD KNOW? Get that out. Not lessen ALL other city's to make them more ordinary.... like perceptions of Houston?
 
Old 08-25-2015, 12:57 PM
 
Location: Greater Houston
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I disagree. While I guess both Memphis and Las Vegas could be acceptable answers for Elvis, I wouldn't say that most people associate Elvis with Vegas before they do with Memphis. Hundreds of thousands of people visit Memphis each year from all over the world just to see Graceland (Elvis' home) and other Elvis related things. Graceland is the second most visited residence in the entire U.S., behind the White House. On the other hand, nobody visits Vegas with the specific purpose of going to see Elvis impersonators. If I tell somebody I'm from Memphis, usually "Elvis!" or "Graceland!" is one of the first things they say in response. If I mention Vegas to somebody, Elvis never comes up.
But then more people visit Vegas than Memphis annually. Most people associate Tennessee with Nashville due to the recent popularity as the epicenter of the country music scene. It has been long recognizable since it's the state capital and the largest city/metro in that state. It's also famous for The Hermitage.

The only major genre of music that doesn't have a presence in L.A. is country. I wouldn't be surprised that the record companies pressure relocation to L.A. eventually for efficiencies and synergies like in other parts of the entertainment industry.

Houston and L.A. are siblings. Everyone has a bone to pick with them. Apparently the smog, constant traffic jams on the freeways, overcrowding, and other environmental ills haven't deterred people from moving to L.A. from places like Ohio. The same can be said about Houston's zoning, the cheap(ly-made) housing, and other derisions from outsiders. If Houston had the Hollywood publicists, it would have already been the premier city in the South for the longest time.
 
Old 08-25-2015, 12:58 PM
 
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But then more people visit Vegas than Memphis annually. Most people associate Tennessee with Nashville due to the recent popularity as the epicenter of the country music scene. It has been long recognizable since it's the state capital and the largest city/metro in that state. It's also famous for The Hermitage.

The only major genre of music that doesn't have a presence in L.A. is country. I wouldn't be surprised that the record companies pressure relocation to L.A. eventually for efficiencies and synergies like in other parts of the entertainment industry.

Houston and L.A. are siblings. Everyone has a bone to pick with them. Apparently the smog, constant traffic jams on the freeways, overcrowding, and other environmental ills haven't deterred people from moving to L.A. from places like Ohio. The same can be said about Houston's zoning, the cheap(ly-made) housing, and other derisions from outsiders. If Houston had the Hollywood publicists, it would have already been the premier city in the South for the longest time.
You are sooooooo going around the topic and INTENTIONALLY missing the point(s). Have a nice day, man.
 
Old 08-25-2015, 01:10 PM
 
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Most people associate Tennessee with Nashville due to the recent popularity as the epicenter of the country music scene. It has been long recognizable since it's the state capital and the largest city/metro in that state. It's also famous for The Hermitage.
You're selling Memphis WAAAYYYY short here, and I don't know of anyone who associates Elvis with Nashville over Memphis. Nashville may be growing faster and the new media darling on the block right now, but Memphis has long made its mark and carved out its niche. And for what it's worth, it's still the largest city in the state, at least for now.
 
Old 08-25-2015, 01:16 PM
Status: "waite untill next year. It was fun while it lasted !" (set 15 days ago)
 
Location: Beautiful Northwest Houston
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You're confusing tourists with visitors.
Every visitor at some point becomes a tourist. When companies decide on where to locate one of the questions they have to ask themselves is, is this place a good place to visit, as well as is this a good place to live.

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