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Now you can have petty arguments for 50 pages about stadia, Skyscrapers, pizza or cuts of meat, but that does not take away from the fact that Houston is one of the most important cities in the country.
Everyone knows that Houston is a very important city in terms of economy.
So you are making a non-argument. I doubt there was one person on this thread who denied that Houston has a major economy, among the nation's largest. The issue is that Houston doesn't offer much to visitors.
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Did the City of Houston do ANY TYPE OF STUDY? Into a RE-PURPOSED ASTRODOME POSIBILITIES? Working with the Owner apparently not the city?
Surely ALL Options could and should be looked into. I made merely suggestions in past post of kinds of use if possibly viable. Part jokingly but in reality seriously ....
IF SOUND YET? WHY CAN'T THE ASTRODOME GAIN A NEW LIFE AS A RE-PUPOSED RELIC? Still preserving what it was given State Landmark status for.
I've read a few pages of this thread and the foolishness is coming from one delusional Houston booster. I haven't seen this type of boosting since Metro Matt and it's making me wonder if they're one in the same people.
Houston is a fine city but there is absolutely nothing iconic about it.
I think you're giving Metro Matt too much credit, he couldn't have articulated such arguments, so I don't think it's him.
Are you now comparing the Astrodome to the Eiffel Tower?
How did you come up with that?
The poster I was responding to stated that the Dome was not of high worth, just because it was on slate to be destroyed, only to be narrowly spared in the end, and I put forth the fact that structures like the Eiffel Tower and the Colosseum were in those same situations as well. The Eiffel Tower, for instance, was just meant to be part of a temporary exhibit for France, and was almost torn down, only being saved due to its usefulness as a radio-station: Eiffel Tower - Facts & Summary - HISTORY.com
And now, the Eiffel Tower still stands as an icon for Paris. The Dome may be going through this tough situation now, but it still stands boldly, and will remain as an icon for Houston.
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No, silly; the Astrodome is a much more iconic monument than the Eiffel Tower! Obviously an abandoned, rusted out, generic football stadium from the 1960's that no one has heard of if not from the U.S. or not a sports fan over 40 is vastly more iconic than the most famous monument on the planet!
Heck, I hear Petco Park in San Diego is more iconic than the Pyramids of Giza. And don't forget super-iconic Mafre Insurance Stadium of Columbus, Ohio. Makes the Statue of Liberty or Big Ben or Great Wall of China look like a roadside pit stop.
Honestly, your critical thinking skills are sorely lacking. You just never sound intelligent in anyone of your posts.
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I've read a few pages of this thread and the foolishness is coming from one delusional Houston booster. I haven't seen this type of boosting since Metro Matt and it's making me wonder if they're one in the same people.
Houston is a fine city but there is absolutely nothing iconic about it.
And if I mention the true fact that the name of Houston pretty much has been tied with NASA throughout history, then I would get called a booster as well.
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Originally Posted by DynamoLA
If your plan to be not "overlooked" rests on the shoulders of an abandoned, rusted, decaying sports arena, you have already lost the battle.
My advice would be to start talking about ANYTHING else Houston has because this Astrodome conversation is one of the most absurd I've ever seen on city-data. Seriously.
The Astrodome is one of many elements that can be utilized in forming a strong Houston cultural brand, not the only one. It is not in good shape now, but it can be fixed.
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The foolishness coming from the anti-Houston crowd on CD is rampant. Regardless of how much people try to downplay Houston, it won't stop Houston from becoming a juggernaut among American cities. IF Houston survives the current oil crisis with just a few nicks and bruises it's going to be game over for a lot of other competing cities in which people like to lump Houston into. Is Houston currently overlooked? YES, but that's changing. Because of the continued economic dominance, many are starting to take Houston serious.
It is; I am called a booster, just because I am relaying the true facts about the reverence and high-status the Dome has had through history, and also the facts that many famous structures did not always see the reverence they do today, and would have been scrapped if original intentions followed. Meanwhile, people can make a flat-out lie about the Astrodome having no special distinctions (along with other attractions/venues/etc in Houston), and yet that is acceptable.
For instance, earlier in this thread, people were saying that "everything Houston offered, other cities had them. Every city has museums, parks, restuarants, etc," with no respect to the fact that each of those elements in Houston is infused with the distinct culture of the city, which you can get nowhere else in the country.
They then say things like, "Houston doesn't offer visitors the best, or among the best of anything (i.e. DC has the best museum, in the Smithsonian, NYC has the best urban environment in the country, Miami has among the best beaches, etc)." But when you then mention that Houston is one of very few cities in the country that have permanent residing companies in all the major fine arts disciplines, meaning that fine arts in the city is thoroughly stimulated, and thus destined to be top-notch.... they downplay it as nothing special, because a city like NYC has more better theater. But no respect for Houston for being one of few cities with such high class of fine arts.
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I read the response to my lengthy post about why the Colosseum is much more important than the Astrodome and realized that I'm the loser for actually taking time to both write a response to such a ridiculous statement and read the response to my post.
Your critical thinking skills are weak. Perhaps you should sharpen them up more, so maybe you can at least grasp the key points being discussed.
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This thread has run its course.
It's no longer meaningful discussion.
Wish it would just be put down already.
Look, Houston is the 5th largest metropolitan area in the country.
It has the 5th largest metropolitan area GDP in the country (counting the Bay as an MSA)
It is loved my many, hated by many, but that doesn't take away from being one of the 5 or 6 most important cities in the country right now.
Like the city or not, it is important.
Americas important niche cities in alphabetical order:
Boston, Chicago, DC, Houston, Los Angeles, New York, San Francisco.
List them however you like, doesn't matter; different things vary in importance to different people but like it or not Houston, Los Angeles and Chicago are the top manufacturing cities in the country right now. Houston and Los Angeles have two of the most important ports in the country right now. Houston is the undisputed king of energy in the US, The Bay is king of Technology, Boston is king of education, DC is our capital, New York, Chicago, Boston and SF are still king of Finance.
Now you can have petty arguments for 50 pages about stadia, Skyscrapers, pizza or cuts of meat, but that does not take away from the fact that Houston is one of the most important cities in the country.
People have even try to downplay Houston's economic might at times, talking about how this current downturn would make the city economy crash, and how the city will become like Detroit if renewable energy sees greater use.
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Yeah it's like talking to a brick wall. Nothing iconic about the Astrodome. His mind is already made up when he argues though. No matter the topic.
The Astrodome's prestige, high-status, and reverence is unmistakable. Even the most ardent of proponents for tearing the structure down can at least admit to the high status it had in history, which still lives on in memories today: http://www.savingplaces.org/treasures/astrodome
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The thing is nobody bashed Houston. Most that was offered to Houston was constructive criticism. We know Houston is an important economic powerhouse. What else though? As far as being a city that can offer people to visit?
The city was bashed. Legit high achievements, and cultural influences of the city were named, and people split all the hairs they can to say why Houston's achievements/influences were apparently insignificant, while those of their "cool" city were great, revolutionary, and are to be respected.
Again kid true facts there isn't anything iconic about Houston that stands out in the minds of Americans. You're nothing but a booster and an epic failure at it. Sorry to burst your bubble but there is nothing special about an old decaying ballpark.
The link below displays iconic American landmarks.
It is; I am called a booster, just because I am relaying the true facts about the reverence and high-status the Dome has had through history, and also the facts that many famous structures did not always see the reverence they do today, and would have been scrapped if original intentions followed. Meanwhile, people can make a flat-out lie about the Astrodome having no special distinctions (along with other attractions/venues/etc in Houston), and yet that is acceptable.
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You were called a booster because you compared the Astrodome to the Roman Colosseum among other things. Frankly, if you cant see the problem with that, youll never understand why people think youre a homer.
The Astrodome's prestige, high-status, and reverence is unmistakable.
Yes, but not quite as "presitgious, high-status or reverent" as even more iconic sports domes, like the great (abandoned) Pontiac Silverdome, or the world-famous (massively outdated) Syracuse Carrierdome, or don't forget the Ninth Wonder of the World, the incredible (wooden and still functioning) SuperiorDome of world-class Marquette, MI.
Ya gotta admit, Astrodome is incredible in its rusted out 60's genericness, but there is no landmark on earth greater than the SuperiorDome. That's probably why Marquette, MI is more iconic than NYC, London or Paris. Makes the Empire State Building or Pyramids of Giza look like a roadside Waffle House!
I did hear that the hot dogs served at the Astrodome back in the day were the best in the country
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