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View Poll Results: Most prestigious
Los Angeles 114 44.36%
Chicago 39 15.18%
Washington, DC 44 17.12%
San Francisco 60 23.35%
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Old 08-27-2015, 05:41 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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I am with you. If you wanna know how prestigious a job is a good first place to look at is how long it takes to qualify for that job. To become a college professor you probably need anywhere from 7 to 10 years of post-secondary education; a doctor, at least 8; and a lawyer at least 7. To become a cop you need to get through a police academy which is like what... 6 months? So yeah
And this is not to bash cops, but how many Stanford graduates obtain their college degree and then join the Oakland Police Department? The most prestigious fields, to a great extent, are defined by the fields chosen by our most talented minds.

The exception, imo, are federal agents. Feds seem to be brighter than the average cop and build stronger cases against suspects. That's at least one reason why the conviction rate tends to be so much higher in federal prosecutions.

 
Old 08-27-2015, 06:09 PM
 
Location: Baltimore, MD
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And this is not to bash cops, but how many Stanford graduates obtain their college degree and then join the Oakland Police Department? The most prestigious fields, to a great extent, are defined by the fields chosen by our most talented minds.

The exception, imo, are federal agents. Feds seem to be brighter than the average cop and build stronger cases against suspects. That's at least one reason why the conviction rate tends to be so much higher in federal prosecutions.
Federal agent jobs are also notoriously difficult to get into, with a lengthy wait time. A Bachelor's is pretty much required at this point, and you have to have been/be a saint.

As far as the college degree thing, yea, the majority still don't have it for cop/firefighter/military jobs, but a growing number actually do these days. Enough so that there are separate tracks/positions for those folks that are a little more "white collar", to say nothing of civilian admin jobs where the big bucks actually are. Someone from Stanford might not join the Oakland Police as a cop per se, but they very well might join the department as an auxiliary member in a more technical field (dispatch administrator/engineer, for example)
 
Old 08-27-2015, 06:27 PM
 
Location: LA
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Most Powerful Cities:

The Most Powerful Cities in the World

What do the SF homers know that the experts don't?

Doesn't even make a single entry in the rankings. LA appears in both U.S. rankings. LA isn't a financial center, so I didn't expect it to appear in that particular list. For a "prestigious" place, San Francisco sure is glossed over by the people who do this research for a living.
 
Old 08-27-2015, 06:29 PM
 
Location: LA
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Exactly my point I've been trying to make, and exactly why I find DC more "prestigious" than LA.

It should also be noted that NYC "citywide" is not prestigious but Manhattan and the most prestigious other parts of the city still add up to being more prestigious than most American cities.
There is no such thing as a city that's prestigious "city wide". Half of Washington, DC is an AIDS-infected violent war zone (the AIDS epidemic in Washington rivals South Africa) which is why that town is regularly ranked as one of the most dangerous cities in the United States. How prestigious lol. Were you under the delusion that Washington, DC was prestigious "citywide"? Haha.

What does this have to do with anything? London, Paris, LA, NY, HK, SF aren't prestigious "citywide" but their core and culture is what makes them prestigious global cities.

And no, you poor deluded thing, Washington, DC is not more prestigious than Los Angeles. Tilt your head up and look at the results of this blowout poll. DC is an afterthought when compared to Los Angeles.

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Old 08-27-2015, 06:38 PM
 
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I find it mildly amusing that the people who get into these back and forth arguments with Montclair are no different than he is. Basically equally smug, pretentious, arrogant, hyperbolic, flippant, douchebaginess, etc.. Like 2 peas in a pod really.
 
Old 08-27-2015, 06:42 PM
 
Location: Baltimore, MD
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There is no such thing as a city that's prestigious "city wide". Half of Washington, DC is an AIDS-infected war zone (the AIDS epidemic in Washington rivals South Africa) which is why that town is regularly ranked as one of the most dangerous cities in the United States. Were you under the delusion that Washington, DC was prestigious "citywide"? LOL.

What does this have to do with anything? London, Paris, LA, SF, aren't prestigious "citywide" but their core and culture is what makes them prestigious global cities.
Lol, Vatican City is prestigious city wide; so is Monte Carlo/Monaco, in the manner you're defining prestige. There are probably others if I want to get nitpicky.

Your point is taken, though. Most cities have good and bad areas. Don't know why he brought that up, but it does add another dynamic to the discussion: which of these cities has the LEAST prestigious parts/institutions?
 
Old 08-27-2015, 07:06 PM
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Dont get me wrong, within CA, SF is blasted as a bossy, tempermental, liberal, hippie, socialist haven.
By "blasted" I assume you mean "correctly-labeled".

And when you use the phrase "within California" I assume you mean "within the United States."
 
Old 08-27-2015, 07:06 PM
 
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I think it's disgusting that 18Montclair keeps referring to the homes of the wealthy elite to justify how important a city is. Frankly, a city that exclusively caters to the rich has so many issues to grapple with on a socio economic and ethical level.

You focus on how well the rich are doing in these cities and don't even think about the size and influence of the middle class in the metro areas we are discussing, aren't they the principal driving force of the economy? historically being the largest demographic, am i right? The number of billionaires in cities is really only high lighting a severe problem of income inequality for SF and NYC.

More importantly, just because a lot of rich people own nice properties in SF, it doesn't mean that it is their primary residence. Many of them have homes all over the world and their SF property may just be an investment to sink their money into.

The way that you are gauging importance and prestige (based on expensive homes or rich people residing there) would have to mean that affluent enclaves like Bal Harbour in Florida or the Hamptons should also be up there in the list with SF and NYC. And obviously, it would be a joke to throw those in the bag with the cities we have in this thread.

Prestige includes more than just the rich people who live there. It includes the importance of the city to the USA and world economy - beyond the homes and watering holes of the jet set crowd.
Uh... I think a lot of people have an antiquated view of how they see DC. Some people, even in this thread, still think DC is a crime-ridden, poor city when that's not the case. Not only is it the most educated city/metro in the country, but DC is extremely wealthy hence the richest counties in america list consisting of mostly DC suburbs.

The amount of wealthy/educated people in an area doesn't make it more important than anywhere else but it definitely counts for something.
 
Old 08-27-2015, 07:11 PM
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Uh... I think a lot of people have an antiquated view of how they see DC. Some people, even in this thread, still think DC is a crime-ridden, poor city when that's not the case. Not only is it the most educated city/metro in the country, but DC is extremely wealthy hence the richest counties in america list consisting of mostly DC suburbs.

The amount of wealthy/educated people in an area doesn't make it more important than anywhere else but it definitely counts for something.
The wealthy DC suburbs don't count as we ALL contribute to their overpaid salaries.
 
Old 08-27-2015, 07:38 PM
 
Location: Zurich, Switzerland/ Piedmont, CA
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By "blasted" I assume you mean "correctly-labeled".

And when you use the phrase "within California" I assume you mean "within the United States."
Whatever makes you feel good sweetie.

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