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View Poll Results: Which region is the accurate place for DC and Baltimore in the 21st century?
Northeast 68 80.95%
South 16 19.05%
Voters: 84. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-03-2015, 08:30 PM
 
Location: Richmond, VA
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The nuance is called Mid-Atlantic. But if you must, their interests and characteristics align with the Northeast today. From a structural perspective, Baltimore more so than DC.
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Old 09-03-2015, 10:45 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Even Atlanta as it is would fall into the category of the New South that's been developing in the modern era, and not the traditional/stereotypical South that people usually think of.
Atlanta is much different today than DC and Baltimore. DC and Balimore are not new south cities. They are northeastern cities. That change has occured for over a century.
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Old 09-03-2015, 10:50 PM
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Location: Atlanta
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Atlanta is much different today than DC and Baltimore. DC and Balimore are not new south cities. They are northeastern cities. That change has occured for over a century.
No, Atlanta isn't that much different. And no, the 'change' as you call it has not happened for over a century. It is very recent, as in the last few decades.

You continue to insist on compartmentalizing Atlanta into your own negative vision, certainly not the true place as it exists in reality.

It would seem that this agenda of yours has no end...
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Old 09-04-2015, 02:54 AM
 
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Atlanta is much different today than DC and Baltimore. DC and Balimore are not new south cities. They are northeastern cities. That change has occured for over a century.
"Over a century"? Try the past 30-40 years.

They aren't classically Northeastern although they have many Northeastern characteristics and the Southern influences are still quite apparent in several ways.
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Old 09-04-2015, 06:01 AM
 
Location: Northeast Suburbs of PITTSBURGH
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Southern, Northeast cities
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Old 09-04-2015, 08:09 AM
 
Location: Florida
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I didn't say anything negative about Atlanta. But DC and Baltimore are not similar to Atlanta. They are northeastern in every way today.
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Old 09-04-2015, 09:44 AM
 
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I didn't say anything negative about Atlanta. But DC and Baltimore are not similar to Atlanta. They are northeastern in every way today.
DC is not truly "northeastern in every way." It lacks an industrial history, a gritty core, European ethnic enclaves, and a dominant Catholic presence like Northeastern cities. Plus there are a lots of SFH neighborhoods, particularly in NE and SE, that look like they could be in Atlanta or Birmingham. DC has many contemporary characteristics of Northeastern cities (transit, politics, pace), but they exist on an unmistakably Southern foundation. This is why "mid-Atlantic" is truly the best term for it.
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Old 09-04-2015, 09:57 AM
 
Location: Florida
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DC is not truly "northeastern in every way." It lacks an industrial history, a gritty core, European ethnic enclaves, and a dominant Catholic presence like Northeastern cities. Plus there are a lots of SFH neighborhoods, particularly in NE and SE, that look like they could be in Atlanta or Birmingham. DC has many contemporary characteristics of Northeastern cities (transit, politics, pace), but they exist on an unmistakably Southern foundation. This is why "mid-Atlantic" is truly the best term for it.
Places change all the time. What something's foundation was has no bearing on what it is today. Florida was similar to the Deep South a hundred years ago. Now it is vastly different. Texas too. Michigan and New York were nearly identical in the 1800s, now they are both noticeably different.
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Old 09-04-2015, 11:23 AM
 
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There's an expression in DC when it come to matters of cool hip etc. that Bawlmore is 30 miles and 200 years away.
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Old 09-04-2015, 12:05 PM
 
Location: CA, NC, and currently FL
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I always considered Maryland to be in the northeast.
I always think it's one of the biggest fails ever of the census that they seriously classify Montana and Wyoming as the same region as California, yet Maryland and Delaware as a completely distinct one from Pennsylvania.

It's inability or unwillingness to update with the times is a complete joke.
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