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View Poll Results: Which city do you see having the biggest future in the entertainment industry?
New York City 8 7.34%
LA 49 44.95%
Boston 2 1.83%
Atlanta 37 33.94%
Washington, D.C. 0 0%
Other 13 11.93%
Voters: 109. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-10-2015, 11:35 AM
 
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Exactly. There's a history of it.
Every film producer and film maker can move out of Los Angeles and it would STILL be the capital of the film industry globally.

This is because innovations in the industry are largely restricted to only Los Angeles, San Francisco, and New York. It was Los Angeles' own Walt Disney that innovated featured animated films when he personally sketched and drew up Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs and that was back in the early 1900s (I think before 1920) or around then.

The "Star" system was also invented in Los Angeles, Florence Lawrence was the first Hollywood star in the world and she barely had much of a role in the short, black-and-white films she was featured in. This is because everyone loves a pretty face and hers gained popularity like wildfire. The "A list" the "B list" the "C list" were all implemented in Los Angeles.

Jaws, the first commercial "box office hit" featured film transformed how movies marketed themselves. Jaws is the reason why movies advertise themselves through commercials, poster-boards and fliers on buses and trains, on billboards, and why cereal boxes often have toy figurines from particular movies or Happy Meals have toys or such from select movies.

Los Angeles played a crucial role in the development of three prominent eras of film; Soviet Montage, German Expressionism, and Italian Neorealism -- it enhanced them and made them worldly and popular. Los Angeles put spaghetti westerns on the map, which caught on like wildfire in Spain in particular.

This is not even including the different technologies innovated and conceptualized that enhanced the industry. It is also not even including the big events that demonstrated Hollywood's power during its Golden Era (see the Hollywood Ten for reference). Technologies, angling, set decorations and concepts, laws and guidelines (like the Hays Code), and such were all influenced by Los Angeles' entertainment industry.

Today most states have offered tax benefits to the film and television industry, innovation is not the braintrust of any of these states' film and television industry. Films and televisions are shot there because it is cheap, because legislatures somewhere are handing out free money to film makers to shoot something there -- especially if they hire locals to help out on the sets or behind the scenes. Not much is being invented, not much is being changed, just simple job creation to shoot a movie at a specified location.

Entertainment is a sophisticated and competent industry in Los Angeles. Quite possible New York and San Francisco too, everywhere else, its there because their states gave handouts to producers and developers. Not to discredit those states but it is like comparing Wal-Mart to Banana Republic on clothing.
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Old 09-10-2015, 11:35 AM
 
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It's hilarious. Their whole thing is a guess.

Team delusion.
"A guess"? No it's based on recent/current trends. Anything could change in the future but as of now, the progress being made in terms of film/TV production is substantial and very real.
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Old 09-10-2015, 12:03 PM
 
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Uh. This thread was about the future.
You're guessing it will stay that way, even though there's a history of states rethinking tax credits. You have nothing to prove that wrong. It's delusional to think Atlanta is exempt.
You're guessing California won't even out its own costs at some point IN THE FUTURE. If that happens, Atlanta film industry is screwed. Period.
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Old 09-10-2015, 12:04 PM
 
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You're guessing it will stay that way.
You're guessing California won't even out its own costs. If that happens, Atlanta film industry is screwed. Period.
I said anything could happen and your predictions are based on "ifs" just like mine are.
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Old 09-10-2015, 12:14 PM
 
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[Q you UOTE=Red where John;41151007]Every film producer and film maker can move out of Los Angeles and it would STILL be the capital of the film industry globally.

This is because innovations in the industry are largely restricted to only Los Angeles, San Francisco, and New York. It was Los Angeles' own Walt Disney that innovated featured animated films when he personally sketched and drew up Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs and that was back in the early 1900s (I think before 1920) or around then.

The "Star" system was also invented in Los Angeles, Florence Lawrence was the first Hollywood star in the world and she barely had much of a role in the short, black-and-white films she was featured in. This is because everyone loves a pretty face and hers gained popularity like wildfire. The "A list" the "B list" the "C list" were all implemented in Los Angeles.

Jaws, the first commercial "box office hit" featured film transformed how movies marketed themselves. Jaws is the reason why movies advertise themselves through commercials, poster-boards and fliers on buses and trains, on billboards, and why cereal boxes often have toy figurines from particular movies or Happy Meals have toys or such from select movies.

Los Angeles played a crucial role in the development of three prominent eras of film; Soviet Montage, German Expressionism, and Italian Neorealism -- it enhanced them and made them worldly and popular. Los Angeles put spaghetti westerns on the map, which caught on like wildfire in Spain in particular.

This is not even including the different technologies innovated and conceptualized that enhanced the industry. It is also not even including the big events that demonstrated Hollywood's power during its Golden Era (see the Hollywood Ten for reference). Technologies, angling, set decorations and concepts, laws and guidelines (like the Hays Code), and such were all influenced by Los Angeles' entertainment industry.

Today most states have offered tax benefits to the film and television industry, innovation is not the braintrust of any of these states' film and television industry. Films and televisions are shot there because it is cheap, because legislatures somewhere are handing out free money to film makers to shoot something there -- especially if they hire locals to help out on the sets or behind the scenes. Not much is being invented, not much is being changed, just simple job creation to shoot a movie at a specified location.

Entertainment is a sophisticated and competent industry in Los Angeles. Quite possible New York and San Francisco too, everywhere else, its there because their states gave handouts to producers and developers. Not to discredit those states but it is like comparing Wal-Mart to Banana Republic on clothing.[/quote]



Yup.

Glance through imdbpro for companies and see where they're located. Companies that make creative decions and produce content.
It's LA by a landslide. It's miles between number 2, either new York or london.
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Old 09-10-2015, 12:17 PM
 
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I said anything could happen and your predictions are based on "ifs" just like mine are.
But LA doesn't have a history of needing tax credits to survive.
Big difference.
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Old 09-10-2015, 12:31 PM
 
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But LA doesn't have a history of needing tax credits to survive.
Big difference.
They don't have the history, but now that tax credits are a part of the game across the board, they have to play as well to some extent.
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Old 09-10-2015, 12:36 PM
 
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Yup.

Glance through imdbpro for companies and see where they're located. Companies that make creative decions and produce content.
It's LA by a landslide. It's miles between number 2, either new York or london.
American Cinema is synonymous with the Hollywood (District). It's a metonym for the entire industry. Similar to how American Musical is synonymous with the Broadway (District) in New York.

Cities all over the world have named their film industry off as a knock off of Los Angeles' Hollywood.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ired_nicknames

I think that's case closed, PLUS the state of California just expanded their film incentive program too. Its impressive as hell because Californians are paying for it on their own. California is donor state, it gives more to Washington than it ever gets back. So the industry there is self-sustaining.
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Old 09-10-2015, 12:49 PM
 
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They don't have the history, but now that tax credits are a part of the game across the board, they have to play as well to some extent.
California being truly competitive would take out the others. That's not a if. That would happen. Quickly too.
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Old 09-10-2015, 12:55 PM
 
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There's another City vs City thread with a poll where they're voting on "what TV show is most known for its location".

The shows on the poll were set in a variety of different cities, but in terms of where they were actually filmed 48 out of 54 were shot in LA. Kind of says it all right there.
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