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Old 03-06-2016, 01:05 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Indy's craft beer scene isn't what I would consider terrible.


Indy Breweries:


Black Acre Brewing Co. - 5632 E Washinton St., Indianapolis
TwoDEEP Brewing Co. - 714 N Capitol Ave, Indianapolis
The Bier Brewery - 5133 East 65th Street, Indianapolis
Thr3e Wise Men - 1021 Broad Ripple Avenue, Indianapolis
Broad Ripple Brew Pub - 840 E 65th St, Indianapolis
Deviate Brewing - 4004 W 96th St, Indianapolis
Daredevil Brewing Co. - 1151 Main St, Indianapolis
Brugge Brasserie - 1011A East Westfield Blvd, Indianapolis
Sun King Brewing Company - 135 N. College Avenue, Indianapolis
Books & Brews - 9402 Uptown Dr, Indianapolis
Central State Brewing - 5529 Bonna Ave, Indianapolis
Fountain Square Brewing Co. - 1301 Barth Ave, Indianapolis
Indiana City Brewing Company - 24 Shelby St, Indianapolis
St. Joseph Brewery & Public House - 540 N College Ave, Indianapolis
Flat 12 Bierwerks - 414 Dorman St, Indianapolis
Triton Brewing Company - 5764 Wheeler Rd, Indianapolis
Ram Restaurant & Brewery - 140 S Illinois St, Indianapolis
Outliers Brewing Company - 534 East North Street, Indianapolis
Redemption Alewerks - 7035 E 96th St, Indianapolis
Rock Bottom Restaurant And Brewery - 10 West Washington, Indianapolis
Rock Bottom Restaurant & Brewery - 2801 Lake Circle Dr, Indianapolis
Blind Owl Brewery - 5014 E 62nd St, Indianapolis
Chilly Water Brewing Company - 719 Virginia Ave, Suite 105, Indianapolis
Tow Yard Brewing - 501 S. Madison, Indianapolis


Indianapolis, Indiana | Beer Guide | BeerAdvocate




Nashville Breweries:


Yazoo Brewing Company - 910 Division St, Nashville
Tennessee Brew Works - 809 Ewing Ave, Nashville
Blackstone Restaurant & Brewery - 1918 West End Ave, Nashville
Bearded Iris Brewing - 101 Van Buren St, Nashville
The Black Abbey Brewing Company - 2952 Sidco Dr, Nashville
Fat Bottom Brewing - 900 Main St, Nashville
Jackalope Brewing Company - 701 8th Ave S, Nashville
TailGate Beer - 7300 Charlotte Pike, Nashville
Jubilee Craft Beer Company - 3430 Hampton Ave, Nashville
Little Harpeth Brewing - 30 Oldham St, Nashville
Hap & Harry's Tennessee Beer / R. S. Lipman Company - 411 Great Circle Rd, Nashville
Czann's Brewing Company - 505 Lea Ave, Nashville


Nashville, Tennessee | Beer Guide | BeerAdvocate


Kansas City Breweries:


Crane Brewing Company - 6515 Railroad St, Raytown
Kansas City Bier Company - 310 W 79th St, Kansas City
Boulevard Brewing Co. - 2501 Southwest Blvd, Kansas City
Double Shift Brewing Company - 412 E 18th St, Kansas City
Torn Label Brewing Co. - 1708 Campbell St, Kansas City
Martin City Brewing Company - 500 E 135th St, Kansas City
75th Street Brewery - 520 W 75th St, Kansas City
Border Brewing Company - 406 E 18th St, Kansas City
Gordon Biersch Brewery & Restaurant - 100 E 14th St, Kansas City
John A. Huber Brewing Co. - 3463 State Highway FF, Jackson
McCoy's Public House - 4057 Pennsylvania Ave, Kansas City
Rock & Run Brewery and Pub - 110 E Kansas St, Liberty
Amerisports Brew Pub - 8201 NE Birmingham Rd, Kansas City
Granite City Food & Brewery - 8461 NW Prairie View Rd, Kansas City
Weston Brewing Company & O'Malley's Pub - 540 Welt St, Weston


Kansas City, Missouri | Beer Guide | BeerAdvocate


Louisville breweries aren't listed but I'm certain the Commonwealth's brewery scene blows Indy's out of the water.




I'm a TN native and live in Indy now. Up until a few years ago, my hometown metro in TN (~500k) had a whopping single brewery. TN had some law on the books (don't remember what) that I heard was impeding craft beer. Obviously, the scene has improved over several years, but I can't imagine Nashville or Louisville beating out Indy on local beer, and I usually prefer both cities to Indy.

 
Old 03-06-2016, 09:44 PM
 
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I'm a TN native and live in Indy now. Up until a few years ago, my hometown metro in TN (~500k) had a whopping single brewery. TN had some law on the books (don't remember what) that I heard was impeding craft beer. Obviously, the scene has improved over several years, but I can't imagine Nashville or Louisville beating out Indy on local beer, and I usually prefer both cities to Indy.
No, honestly, Louisville has a great craft brew scene, very similar if not better than Indy, and two bus tours to showcase it as well (every major city of relevance has these tours now, but Louisville has two specific to craft beer) Maybe what you can say is either you have not been to Louisville recently, or do not know the scene well. Let me help you because if you are a big beer guy who likes Louisville and Nashville, you need to check some of these places out.....

Lou's Brew Bus - Book Now

https://www.facebook.com/derbycitybrewbus/timeline

This is not to mention countless other city tours that run daily, including food, wine, and especially, bourbon tours.

3rd Turn Brewing
Akasha Brewing Company
Apocalypse Brew Works
Donum Dei Brewery (New Albany, IN)
Flat12 Bierwerks – Jeffersonville, IN
Floyd County Brewing Company (New Albany, IN)
Goodwood Brewing Company
Gordon Biersch Brewery Restaurant
Great Flood Brewing
Monnik Beer Company
Red Yeti Brewing Company (Jeffersonville, IN)
BBC Brewpubs
Cumberland Brews
New Albanian Brewing Company
New Albanian Bank Street Brewhouse
Against The Grain Brewery
Falls City Brewing Co. (whoever said they don't brew their own beer clearly has never been there and seen their huge vats)

I think there are a couple more which I will post of I can think of them later, but this is the best list I can find. I know there have been several announcements for new ones recently, like another long time Louisville legacy beer brand, Sterling (legacy beer from decades ago like Falls City). For anyone who says you cannot count Jeffersonville or New Albany, that would be like saying you cannot count Broad Ripple in Indy...both neighborhoods are close to downtown Louisville than Broad Ripple is to downtown Indy.

http://www.bizjournals.com/louisvill...meback-in.html

This is not to mention Louisville has urban bourbon distillers opening what seem like every few months. 3 have opened downtown alone in the last year, with 4 more either under development or under construction. Michter's Angels Envy, Old Forester, and Rabbit Hole to name a few.
To suggest that Louisville is not a food and beverage epicenter and does not have a craft beer scene as good as Indy is to suggest you really haven't been around Louisville.

And there's more...some of the best beer bars in the region are located in Louisville. No where in Indy will you find the selection at Sergio's world of beers:

Sergio

Or folks w the knowledge of Louisville Beer Store

Louisville Beer Store - 41 Photos - Beer, Wine & Spirits - NuLu - Louisville, KY - Reviews - Yelp

In fact, multiple publications have named Sergio's and also Holy Grale to the list of best beer bars in AMERICA. Below is one:

Holy Grale and Sergio's World Beers make Draft Mag's Top 100 Beer Bars list - Insider Louisville

As you can tell from the list, Indy has none. Cleveland, Milwaukee, Chicago, and St Louis are great beer cities in the Midwest. Indy has a decent scene but its not a great beer scene nor does it have the legacy brands of German beers from the nineteenth and early twentieth centuries that these other cities have. So, I think all 4 cities in this thread have decent spirit scenes, but as you can see, Louisville has highly touted beer bars, just as many breweries as any city listed, here, and it has the distilled spirits and bourbon boom these cities will never have. For this reason, i give Louisville the edge here, and you can see I provided objective data to come to this conclusion.


Oh wait, does Indy, KC or Nashville have a top 10 beer festival? Louisville does, just announced this week. The awards keep coming in for a city I believe has been underrated too long:

http://www.10best.com/awards/travel/best-beer-festival/

Last edited by Peter1948; 03-06-2016 at 10:05 PM..
 
Old 03-07-2016, 06:54 AM
 
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Your statement was that "Louisville wasn't a factor in the negro leagues"

That is FALSE


Tons of negro league teams



Louisville Black Caps club
Louisville Black Caps (Apr–Aug)
Columbus Turfs (Aug–Sept)
1932 1932 NSL (1932)
Relocated to Columbus in August then folded at end of season
[3]
Louisville Black Colonels [3]
Louisville Buckeyes
(See Cleveland Buckeyes) 1949 1949 NAL (1949) [26]
Louisville Fall City 1887 1887 NCBBL (1887) [27]
Louisville White Sox 1931 1931 NNL1 (1931) [3]
Zulu Cannibal Giants 1934 1937 Independent (1934–37)
Based in Louisville
[19]
You are becoming a caricature of yourself. Every team you listed with the exception of the Zulu Cannibal Giants didn't last a season. For example, Louisville Fall City team was part of the NCBBL (National Colored Baseball League). The NCBBL folded 2-weeks after it was formed due to low attendance. You're a neophyte on this subject and it clearly shows. Also, the Zulu Cannibal Giants was not in the Negro League. They were a traveling baseball clown act. That like calling the Harlem Globetrotters a NBA basketball team. Dude you are a neophyte in this area yet you insist on perpetrating this fraud of being a subject matter expert.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zulu_Cannibal_Giants


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Originally Posted by Peter1948 View Post
You are making the Indy Jazz scene out to be like it was Chicago or something. Was it slightly better than Louisville? Maybe. But its hard to say since Louisville literally tore down about 2 miles of a black commercial district. Literally decimated it. Sad but true. Walnut street was every bit as important as Indiana Ave for urban blacks, and do not forget that Louisville was a larger city than Indy for most of its existence until Indy pulled away in the mid 20th century.

C'mon ... Louisville doesn't have a strong documented jazz history. Indy wasn't a Chicago but jazz wise it was just a tier below. Also Indiana Avenue's black district was significantly larger and more vibrant than Louisville. Below are members inducted into Indy's Hall of Fame.

Indianapolis Jazz Foundation Hall of Fame Members include:


1998
  • Willie Baker
  • Chuck Carter
  • Al Cobine
  • Jimmy Coe
  • Dick Dickenson
  • Jim Edison
  • Pookie Johnson
  • Jimmy McDaniels
  • Russell Webster
1999
  • Eugene Fowlkes
  • Flo Garvin
  • Aletra Hampton
  • Virtue Hampton-Whitted
  • Anderson White
2000
  • Duncan Schiedt
2001
  • J.J. Johnson
  • Mingo Jones
  • David Young
2002
  • David Baker, PhD
  • Wes Montgomery
  • Mary Moss
  • Chuck Workman
2003
  • Rev. Marvin Chandler
  • Jack Gilfoy
  • Cathy Morris
2004
  • Ralph Adams
  • Steve Allee
  • Larry Liggett
  • Claude Sifferlen
2005
  • Slide Hampton
  • Killer Ray Appleton
  • Larry Clark III
  • Everett Greene
  • Bill Lancton
  • Tommy Mullinix
2006
  • Russell Brown
  • Monk Montgomery
  • Buddy Montgomery
  • Frank Glover
2007
  • Freddie Hubbard
  • Hazel Strong
2008
  • Joe Deal
  • Harry Mediema
  • Melvin Rhyne
2009
  • Al Coleman
  • Reggie DuValle
  • Bill Penick
  • Frank Smith
  • Tommy Wills
2010
  • Royce Campbell
  • Rudy Finnell
  • Clifford Ratliff
  • Gilbert Taylor
2011
  • Allen “Turk” Burke
  • Carl Hines
  • Gene Markiewicz
  • Gary Walters
  • Steve Weakley
2012
  • David Allee
  • Al Kiger
  • David Andrichik
  • John VonOhlen
2013
  • Steve Dokken
  • Cynthia Layne
  • Larry McWilliams
  • Larry Ridley
  • Harry Risor
2014
  • Ron Brinson
  • Steve Corn
  • Edythe Fitzugh
  • Larry Wiseman
As far as population, Indianapolis overtook Louisville in population in 1910 not the mid 20th century. Also Indianapolis had a larger and more engaged African American population.


https://www.census.gov/population/ww...0027/tab14.txt


Last but not least ... virtually all of Indiana Avenue historic African American district was decimated. The Avenue was anchored by the Walker Building (constructed in 1927), home to hundreds who lived in the New Deal public housing complex Lockefield Gardens and destination for a night on the town at the 25 clubs that lined the avenue by 1940. Walnut street can't boost that claim.


In 1969, Indiana University and Purdue University merged and needed a area to build their campus. Hence the partial demolition of Lockefield Gardens came at the close of both IUPUI's expansion. The city did this despite the reassurances to residents and business owners that revitalization would take place, the city rezoned the area for commercial uses and proceeded to build university buildings, parking lots, and interstates. In 1980, a neighborhood-based group, IUPUI and Wishard agreed to vacate all but seven buildings to make way for new development. Demolition took place in 1983, following protests from community groups and historic preservationists. Some of the land cleared has been occupied by IUPUI office space and parking.
 
Old 03-07-2016, 07:38 AM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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You are becoming a caricature of yourself. Every team you listed with the exception of the Zulu Cannibal Giants didn't last a season. For example, Louisville Fall City team was part of the NCBBL (National Colored Baseball League). The NCBBL folded 2-weeks after it was formed due to low attendance. You're a neophyte on this subject and it clearly shows. Also, the Zulu Cannibal Giants was not in the Negro League. They were a traveling baseball clown act. That like calling the Harlem Globetrotters a NBA basketball team. Dude you are a neophyte in this area yet you insist on perpetrating this fraud of being a subject matter expert.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zulu_Cannibal_Giants





C'mon ... Louisville doesn't have a strong documented jazz history. Indy wasn't a Chicago but jazz wise it was just a tier below. Also Indiana Avenue's black district was significantly larger and more vibrant than Louisville. Below are members inducted into Indy's Hall of Fame.

Indianapolis Jazz Foundation Hall of Fame Members include:


1998
  • Willie Baker
  • Chuck Carter
  • Al Cobine
  • Jimmy Coe
  • Dick Dickenson
  • Jim Edison
  • Pookie Johnson
  • Jimmy McDaniels
  • Russell Webster
1999
  • Eugene Fowlkes
  • Flo Garvin
  • Aletra Hampton
  • Virtue Hampton-Whitted
  • Anderson White
2000
  • Duncan Schiedt
2001
  • J.J. Johnson
  • Mingo Jones
  • David Young
2002
  • David Baker, PhD
  • Wes Montgomery
  • Mary Moss
  • Chuck Workman
2003
  • Rev. Marvin Chandler
  • Jack Gilfoy
  • Cathy Morris
2004
  • Ralph Adams
  • Steve Allee
  • Larry Liggett
  • Claude Sifferlen
2005
  • Slide Hampton
  • Killer Ray Appleton
  • Larry Clark III
  • Everett Greene
  • Bill Lancton
  • Tommy Mullinix
2006
  • Russell Brown
  • Monk Montgomery
  • Buddy Montgomery
  • Frank Glover
2007
  • Freddie Hubbard
  • Hazel Strong
2008
  • Joe Deal
  • Harry Mediema
  • Melvin Rhyne
2009
  • Al Coleman
  • Reggie DuValle
  • Bill Penick
  • Frank Smith
  • Tommy Wills
2010
  • Royce Campbell
  • Rudy Finnell
  • Clifford Ratliff
  • Gilbert Taylor
2011
  • Allen “Turk” Burke
  • Carl Hines
  • Gene Markiewicz
  • Gary Walters
  • Steve Weakley
2012
  • David Allee
  • Al Kiger
  • David Andrichik
  • John VonOhlen
2013
  • Steve Dokken
  • Cynthia Layne
  • Larry McWilliams
  • Larry Ridley
  • Harry Risor
2014
  • Ron Brinson
  • Steve Corn
  • Edythe Fitzugh
  • Larry Wiseman
As far as population, Indianapolis overtook Louisville in population in 1910 not the mid 20th century. Also Indianapolis had a larger and more engaged African American population.


https://www.census.gov/population/ww...0027/tab14.txt


Last but not least ... virtually all of Indiana Avenue historic African American district was decimated. The Avenue was anchored by the Walker Building (constructed in 1927), home to hundreds who lived in the New Deal public housing complex Lockefield Gardens and destination for a night on the town at the 25 clubs that lined the avenue by 1940. Walnut street can't boost that claim.


In 1969, Indiana University and Purdue University merged and needed a area to build their campus. Hence the partial demolition of Lockefield Gardens came at the close of both IUPUI's expansion. The city did this despite the reassurances to residents and business owners that revitalization would take place, the city rezoned the area for commercial uses and proceeded to build university buildings, parking lots, and interstates. In 1980, a neighborhood-based group, IUPUI and Wishard agreed to vacate all but seven buildings to make way for new development. Demolition took place in 1983, following protests from community groups and historic preservationists. Some of the land cleared has been occupied by IUPUI office space and parking.
Fantastic post, I completely agree. A lot of people here don't appreciate the facts you point out. It's in style to irrationally hate on Indianapolis. Good job being objective, even if the boosters from elsewhere refuse to listen.
 
Old 03-07-2016, 07:38 AM
 
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No, honestly, Louisville has a great craft brew scene, very similar if not better than Indy, and two bus tours to showcase it as well (every major city of relevance has these tours now, but Louisville has two specific to craft beer) Maybe what you can say is either you have not been to Louisville recently, or do not know the scene well. Let me help you because if you are a big beer guy who likes Louisville and Nashville, you need to check some of these places out.....

Lou's Brew Bus - Book Now

https://www.facebook.com/derbycitybrewbus/timeline

This is not to mention countless other city tours that run daily, including food, wine, and especially, bourbon tours.

3rd Turn Brewing
Akasha Brewing Company
Apocalypse Brew Works
Donum Dei Brewery (New Albany, IN)
Flat12 Bierwerks – Jeffersonville, IN
Floyd County Brewing Company (New Albany, IN)
Goodwood Brewing Company
Gordon Biersch Brewery Restaurant
Great Flood Brewing
Monnik Beer Company
Red Yeti Brewing Company (Jeffersonville, IN)
BBC Brewpubs
Cumberland Brews
New Albanian Brewing Company
New Albanian Bank Street Brewhouse
Against The Grain Brewery
Falls City Brewing Co. (whoever said they don't brew their own beer clearly has never been there and seen their huge vats)

I think there are a couple more which I will post of I can think of them later, but this is the best list I can find. I know there have been several announcements for new ones recently, like another long time Louisville legacy beer brand, Sterling (legacy beer from decades ago like Falls City). For anyone who says you cannot count Jeffersonville or New Albany, that would be like saying you cannot count Broad Ripple in Indy...both neighborhoods are close to downtown Louisville than Broad Ripple is to downtown Indy.

http://www.bizjournals.com/louisvill...meback-in.html

This is not to mention Louisville has urban bourbon distillers opening what seem like every few months. 3 have opened downtown alone in the last year, with 4 more either under development or under construction. Michter's Angels Envy, Old Forester, and Rabbit Hole to name a few.
To suggest that Louisville is not a food and beverage epicenter and does not have a craft beer scene as good as Indy is to suggest you really haven't been around Louisville.

And there's more...some of the best beer bars in the region are located in Louisville. No where in Indy will you find the selection at Sergio's world of beers:

Sergio

Or folks w the knowledge of Louisville Beer Store

Louisville Beer Store - 41 Photos - Beer, Wine & Spirits - NuLu - Louisville, KY - Reviews - Yelp

In fact, multiple publications have named Sergio's and also Holy Grale to the list of best beer bars in AMERICA. Below is one:

Holy Grale and Sergio's World Beers make Draft Mag's Top 100 Beer Bars list - Insider Louisville

As you can tell from the list, Indy has none. Cleveland, Milwaukee, Chicago, and St Louis are great beer cities in the Midwest. Indy has a decent scene but its not a great beer scene nor does it have the legacy brands of German beers from the nineteenth and early twentieth centuries that these other cities have. So, I think all 4 cities in this thread have decent spirit scenes, but as you can see, Louisville has highly touted beer bars, just as many breweries as any city listed, here, and it has the distilled spirits and bourbon boom these cities will never have. For this reason, i give Louisville the edge here, and you can see I provided objective data to come to this conclusion.


Oh wait, does Indy, KC or Nashville have a top 10 beer festival? Louisville does, just announced this week. The awards keep coming in for a city I believe has been underrated too long:

Best Beer Festival Winners: 2016 10Best Readers' Choice Travel Awards

Do you know the difference between a brewery and a bar? How many breweries not bars are in Louisville? Southern Indiana don't count.
 
Old 03-07-2016, 07:56 AM
 
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Do you know the difference between a brewery and a bar? How many breweries not bars are in Louisville? Southern Indiana don't count.
Don't talk down to me. Every place I listed was a brewery here:

3rd Turn Brewing
Akasha Brewing Company
Apocalypse Brew Works
Donum Dei Brewery (New Albany, IN)
Flat12 Bierwerks – Jeffersonville, IN
Floyd County Brewing Company (New Albany, IN)
Goodwood Brewing Company
Gordon Biersch Brewery Restaurant
Great Flood Brewing
Monnik Beer Company
Red Yeti Brewing Company (Jeffersonville, IN)
BBC Brewpubs
Cumberland Brews
New Albanian Brewing Company
New Albanian Bank Street Brewhouse
Against The Grain Brewery
Falls City Brewing Co.

They brew their own beer IN HOUSE. Do you really think Indy has a better scene than a city that attracts tourists for this kind of thing in droves?

And, clearly you have no answer for the real beer bars that exist in Louisville, but way to circumvent the question by pretending I do not know what a beer bar vs a brewery is.

S. Indiana does not count? That's ludicrous. New Albany and Jefersonville are closer to Louisville than Broad Ripple....they are every bit a part of Louisville, and if you had been to Louisville lately, you'd see how they function as urban neighbooods of the city in their downtown, and suburbs on the I265 beltway.

So, if S. Indiana doesn't count, lets divide each of these cities in half and not count their northside. You cannot look at Louisville without understanding the "falls cities": which are inextricably linked, the only difference being a river and state line between the two, which is an artificial barrier.

As for the Jazz question, your posts do not prove at all that Indy has any better Jazz scene TODAY than what exists in Louisville....other than you say it does.
 
Old 03-07-2016, 08:09 AM
 
Location: Englewood, Near Eastside Indy
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Flat12 Bierwerks – Jeffersonville, IN
Flat 12 is an Indianapolis based brewery with a tap room in Jeffersonville. Indy must have a pretty good beer scene if one of their lower grade breweries is considered a big win for Louisville.
 
Old 03-07-2016, 08:16 AM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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Flat 12 is an Indianapolis based brewery with a tap room in Jeffersonville. Indy must have a pretty good beer scene if one of their lower grade breweries is considered a big win for Louisville.
Exactly! Good post.
 
Old 03-07-2016, 08:43 AM
 
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Flat 12 is an Indianapolis based brewery with a tap room in Jeffersonville. Indy must have a pretty good beer scene if one of their lower grade breweries is considered a big win for Louisville.
First of all, it is not a taproom. It is a full scale brewery. They have started their own brewing there since last year, and have svereal beers unique to S. Indiana.

flat 12 bierwerks | 502 Brews

I have never been to the Jeffersonville location to drink, but have walked by it and stopped in after walking the Big Four.

I have been to the Indy location, and agree its an average place.

But the list posted for Indy included Rock Bottom (huge chain as opposed to Indiana based Flat 12), so I think Flat 12 is more than reasonable to include it as they brew their own beer.

Your comment is most just silly really.

So because Louisville has hoardes of restaurants etc based in Louisville then that means something for Indy?

Because there is J Gumbos, or Papa Johns, or KFC, or Boombozz Crafthouse, Wild Eggs, and I am sure many more restaurants based in Louisville located in Indy (funny that none of the actual really good restaurants locate there), then that means something? Nice try there...
 
Old 03-07-2016, 08:46 AM
 
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Don't talk down to me. Every place I listed was a brewery here:

3rd Turn Brewing
Akasha Brewing Company
Apocalypse Brew Works
Donum Dei Brewery (New Albany, IN)
Flat12 Bierwerks – Jeffersonville, IN
Floyd County Brewing Company (New Albany, IN)
Goodwood Brewing Company
Gordon Biersch Brewery Restaurant
Great Flood Brewing
Monnik Beer Company
Red Yeti Brewing Company (Jeffersonville, IN)
BBC Brewpubs
Cumberland Brews
New Albanian Brewing Company
New Albanian Bank Street Brewhouse
Against The Grain Brewery
Falls City Brewing Co.

They brew their own beer IN HOUSE. Do you really think Indy has a better scene than a city that attracts tourists for this kind of thing in droves?

And, clearly you have no answer for the real beer bars that exist in Louisville, but way to circumvent the question by pretending I do not know what a beer bar vs a brewery is.

S. Indiana does not count? That's ludicrous. New Albany and Jefersonville are closer to Louisville than Broad Ripple....they are every bit a part of Louisville, and if you had been to Louisville lately, you'd see how they function as urban neighbooods of the city in their downtown, and suburbs on the I265 beltway.


New Albany and Jeffersonville are still in the state of Indiana. Btw ... there aren't very many breweries in the Kentucky. Btw, Indiana is ranked 14th in craft brew sales and production. Kentucky is 46th. Tennessee is 41th. Missouri is 26th.

So, if S. Indiana doesn't count, lets divide each of these cities in half and not count their northside. You cannot look at Louisville without understanding the "falls cities": which are inextricably linked, the only difference being a river and state line between the two, which is an artificial barrier.

As for the Jazz question, your posts do not prove at all that Indy has any better Jazz scene TODAY than what exists in Louisville....other than you say it does.

New Albany and Jeffersonville are still in the state of Indiana. Btw ... there aren't very many breweries in the Kentucky. Btw, Indiana is ranked 14th in craft brew sales and production. Kentucky is 46th. Tennessee is 41th. Missouri is 26th.

https://www.brewersassociation.org/statistics/by-state/


As far as jazz is concern you are delusional but that's your normal when you are discussing Louisville. I see you clearly avoided the Negro league and Indiana Avenue v.s. Walnut Street comparison. Smart man ... lol.
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