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Old 10-21-2015, 04:35 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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If this is the case, then why is DeKalb County praised so much?
Part of Atlanta actually extends into Dekalb County. That part is obviously rougher and poorer than other parts of Dekalb. It's a bit like PG County in that regard.

I don't think income gives you a full picture. As I mentioned earlier, West Indian families are a bit different from typical American families in that it's not uncommon for a grown ass man with a good paying job to be living with his parents well into his 30s (along with other extended family). Consequently, West Indian households tend to have more income earners. This could have an upward biasing effect on household income.

A somewhat different angle on this is to compare how much individuals are actually earning.
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Old 10-21-2015, 04:36 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Is it median or average income? I'm only asking because you mentioned both.
I said average household sizes. The figures are for median earnings.
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Old 10-21-2015, 04:37 PM
 
Location: Arlington
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PG county yes. I'm not sure about Dekalb county cause I know nothing about it. If Dekalb is like PG county then the closest equivalent you will get to PG county/Dekalb County in the entire state of texas is southwest Dallas County. Thats's Lancaster, Desoto, Cedar Hill, Duncanville.

Like PG county, this area is adjacent to the poorest areas in the city (oak cliff). The schools aren't where they should be bc some of the inner city kids will move to the burbs and bring that hood mentality with them. A lot of kids will move for sports. HS football is big here in. Jonathan Gray was an amazingly gifted kid from inner city FW. The city of Aledo gave his mom a job and moved her to the city just so he can play for the High School. Southlake (all white school in richest area of metro) is known to do the same thing.

Unlike PG county, some areas aren't as black as they should be. We make up a minority of the police departments but that is slowly changing through attrition.
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Old 10-21-2015, 04:37 PM
 
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Part of Atlanta actually extends into Dekalb County. That part is obviously rougher and poorer than other parts of Dekalb. It's a bit like PG County in that regard.

I don't think income gives you a full picture. As I mentioned earlier, West Indian families are a bit different from typical American families in that it's not uncommon for a grown ass man with a good paying job to be living with his parents well into his 30s (along with other extended family). Consequently, West Indian households tend to have more income earners. This could have an upward biasing effect on household income.

A somewhat different angle on this is to compare how much individuals are actually earning.
From this, if any area or county is going to be a "benchmark," I think it should be PG.
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Old 10-21-2015, 04:39 PM
 
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PG county yes. I'm not sure about Dekalb county cause I know nothing about it. If Dekalb is like PG county then the closest equivalent you will get to PG county/Dekalb County in the entire state of texas is southwest Dallas County. Thats's Lancaster, Desoto, Cedar Hill, Duncanville.

Like PG county, this area is adjacent to the poorest areas in the city (oak cliff). The schools aren't where they should be bc some of the inner city kids will move to the burbs and bring that hood mentality with them. A lot of kids will move for sports. HS football is big here in. Jonathan Gray was an amazingly gifted kid from inner city FW. The city of Aledo gave his mom a job and moved her to the city just so he can play for the High School. Southlake (all white school in richest area of metro) is known to do the same thing.

Unlike PG county, some areas aren't as black as they should be. We make up a minority of the police departments but that is slowly changing through attrition.
We can add Missouri City/Fresno/Stafford to the mix now.
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Old 10-21-2015, 04:39 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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From this, if any area or county is going to be a "benchmark," I think it should be PG.
A $58,000 salary in Atlanta is as good as a $100,000 salary in NYC.
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Old 10-21-2015, 04:45 PM
 
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And no, I'm not hating on Atlanta. People on here compare black places to DeKalb County all the time like it's the benchmark, but the county's income is below the state's level
I think it has to do with the county being 55% Black and an overall median household income just over the most available state figure at between $50-51,000. That is about $1,000 over the state figure.

Also, with the Black median household in the county at about $42-43,000, in relation to the state median and the COL, that is still within the range of "middle class". This can help give an idea in relation to the state median: What 'middle class' means in every US state - Business Insider

Also, when you see (08-12) or (09-13) information, it is the average of the median for each of those years. So, those 2 information ranges share 2009-2012 information and the difference between the two ranges will generally be pretty minor. I believe that this is the case, if I'm not mistaken.

Median is just the middle number out of all of the household incomes. So, half are above and half are below.

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Old 10-21-2015, 04:56 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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I'm not sure if people know this but West Indians often have larger households for cultural reasons. And indeed, average household sizes in SE Queens tend to be a bit larger than they are in PG and Dekalb County. Here are some of the majority-Black zip codes we listed earlier ordered by median earnings. In parentheses is the % of people working full-time earning $100K or more per year.

20721: $89,187 (33.7%)
20769: $78,506 (30.3%)
20607: $78,291 (23.9%)
30214: $58,893 (12.8%)
11413: $54,298 (8.4%)
11429: $51,820 (7.5%)
11412: $51,001 (6.2%)
11434: $49,160 (5.8%)
11433: $44,807 (5.5%)
Black or African American Educational Attainment for the same zips

20721: 52.6%
20769: 47.4%
20607: 40.0%
30214: 38.1%
11413: 26.0%
11434: 21.9%
11412: 20.9%
11429: 20.6%
11433: 16.1%
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Old 10-21-2015, 05:00 PM
 
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I said average household sizes. The figures are for median earnings.

My mistake.....Are those different SE Queens zips than the ones I listed except for 11412? This is what I saw for 11412: 11412 Zip Code Income and Careers - USA.comô

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For 11413: 11413 Zip Code Income and Careers - USA.comô
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For 11429: 11429 Zip Code - USA.comô
11429 Zip Code Income and Careers - USA.comô

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Old 10-21-2015, 05:05 PM
 
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Black or African American Educational Attainment for the same zips

20721: 52.6%
20769: 47.4%
20607: 40.0%
30214: 38.1%
11413: 26.0%
11434: 21.9%
11412: 20.9%
11429: 20.6%
11433: 16.1%
Do you have info for zips 11411 and 11422?
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