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Old 08-14-2016, 06:20 PM
 
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I already know that there is criteria, which was given on page 1. It was debated by some, but criteria can be debated, give or take. With that said, Atlanta and DC aren't the only places that fit all or most of that criteria, as there are major and smaller places that could fit. There is a bunch of information in the thread that offer examples.
If no criteria is needed then the Jacksonville Jaquars are the best team ever in the NFL. Derrick Rose is better than Michael Jordan
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Old 08-14-2016, 06:22 PM
 
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If it was as simple as going down a checklist, this thread wouldn't have 300 pages.
It really is. A criteria has to be established when debating. If a criteria isnt needed then the Jacksonville Jaquars are better than the Denver Broncos. Soulja boy is better than Tupac. Ashanti is better than Whitney Houston. Macon,GA skyline is better than Manhattan skyline

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Old 08-14-2016, 08:14 PM
 
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If no criteria is needed then the Jacksonville Jaquars are the best team ever in the NFL. Derrick Rose is better than Michael Jordan
The problem with this response is that I didn't say that there isn't any criteria. Stop it. I'm not the one........

Also, this thread offers some information about smaller areas: http://www.city-data.com/forum/city-...americans.html
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Old 08-14-2016, 08:23 PM
 
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The problem with this response is that I didn't say that there isn't any criteria. Stop it. I'm not the one........

Also, this thread offers some information about smaller areas: http://www.city-data.com/forum/city-...americans.html

That's a different topic. That's like comparing the best ever basketball players and Im saying Jordan and Magic are the best players then you say "what about the college and hs players"
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Old 08-14-2016, 08:50 PM
 
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That's a different topic. That's like comparing the best ever basketball players and Im saying Jordan and Magic are the best players then you say "what about the college and hs players"
No it isn't. You could say that DC is running away with it, given the information posted earlier in the thread and its Black median household income is the highest out of the major metros. It is about $13,000 higher than the national figure($66,307 is the Black median household income in the DC metro according to 2010-2014 census info.). To put that into perspective, that is roughly around the median household income for the NYC metro area. So, if we want to use the rings anology, DC is on its Bill Russell, while Atlanta may be on Jordan/Kobe status.

Keep in mind, little Dover DE, a small metro that is 25% Black/has an HBCU and a military presence has a higher Black median household income than Atlanta, among other major metros. So, we shouldn't sleep on these small areas.
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Old 08-14-2016, 08:52 PM
 
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It's hard to call a small city like Dover a "mecca" though.
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Old 08-14-2016, 08:56 PM
 
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It's hard to call a small city like Dover a "mecca" though.
True and it is in the small areas that are good for Blacks thread. However, that information does illustrate that certain aspects can make the topic debatable in regards to "meccas". For instance, using a couple of demographic aspects, the Atlanta and the Virginia Beach/Norfolk/Newport News metros have essentially the same Black median household income ($42,975 vs. $42,332) and are roughly the same in Black percentage(33% vs 31%).

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Old 08-14-2016, 09:04 PM
 
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No it isn't. You could say that DC is running away with it, given the information posted earlier in the thread and its Black median household income is the highest out of the major metros. It is about $13,000 higher than the national figure($66,307 is the Black median household income in the DC metro according to 2010-2014 census info.). To put that into perspective, that is roughly around the median household income for the NYC metro area. So, if we want to use the rings anology, DC is on its Bill Russell, while Atlanta may be on Jordan/Kobe status.

Keep in mind, little Dover DE, a small metro that is 25% Black/has an HBCU and a military presence has a higher Black median household income than Atlanta, among other major metros. So, we shouldn't sleep on these small areas.
So what you are saying is Jordan and Magic are the best basketball players but dont forget about the hs basketball players that just played in the McDonald's HS All Star Basketball game...ok

Several criterias have to be met and not just one (medium household income) because if that's the case LA is the black mecca but im tired of going back and forth on this topic. If you think we should compare the best hs players to the best NBA players then you have a right to do that. Peace!

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Old 08-14-2016, 09:18 PM
 
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Perfect reason for a criteria. Sure DC wins the median household income category because it has a higher cost of living but without factoring COL DC wins. Once we factor in black colleges since Atlanta has Clark, Spelman and Morehouse Atlanta would win since DC just has HU. Political, its a tie. Black arts/music Atlanta wins. Economic opportunities is a tie. Black/white relations is also a tie. That's why It can go either way for each city. That's like saying Magic isnt one of the greatest because he didnt shoot that many 3 pointers

The black median in LA is more than the black median in Houston so I guess LA is more of a black mecca than Philly since you mainly factoring in black median household but im tired of going back and forth on this topic. If you think we should compare the best hs players to the best NBA players then you have a right to do that. Peace!
Ok....I was talking to someone else in the first place as to why the topic could be debatable, but its cool though.

I would say that using LA and Houston is a little bit different than the DC/Atlanta comparison, however. I don't know about that on the Magic thing either. Maybe it is a matter of less blocked shots and rebounds, since I did use Bill Russell.

DC does have UDC and Bowie State in its metro as well.

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Old 08-14-2016, 09:35 PM
 
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Also Rutland, VT black medium household income is $145,938 which is more than DC and Atlanta combined so I guess Rutland, VT is the real black mecca if we are only factoring in black medium household income but it is what it is
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