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Old 08-24-2016, 12:28 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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It depends on what you define as wealthy or who is better off? A person in DC making 130k per year living in a 400k home or someone in Atlanta making 60k living in a 180k house? Yes the DC person makes more but they both have the same standard of living.
Not necessarily. The housing market in DC proper and Prince George's County (where about half of DC area Blacks live) are very different animals. Let's look at Black median household incomes in DeKalb and PG County first.

PG County - $74,604
DeKalb County - $41,253

Now let's look at median monthly housing costs.

PG County - $1,577
Dekalb County - $1,112

PG County residents are spending about 25% of their income on housing. DeKalb County residents are spending about 32% of their income on housing.
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Old 08-24-2016, 12:36 PM
 
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Not necessarily. The housing market in DC proper and Prince George's County (where about half of DC area Blacks live) are very different animals. Let's look at Black median household incomes in DeKalb and PG County first.

PG County - $74,604
DeKalb County - $41,253

Now let's look at median monthly housing costs.

PG County - $1,577
Dekalb County - $1,112

PG County residents are spending about 25% of their income on housing. DeKalb County residents are spending about 32% of their income on housing.
Can Black median monthly housing costs be broken out? I don't think PG has the dichotomy of DeKalb County, with Dunwoody, Druid Hills, and Decatur proper being more affluent, Whiter areas, which probably skews things somewhat here. Although it's a more tedious way of looking at it, Census tracts would probably be a better indicator.

But either way, PG homeowners, on average, have more wealth tied into their homes due to higher housing costs so that has to be taken into account.
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Old 08-24-2016, 12:38 PM
 
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DC has the same but it's harder for the so-so and not-so-good blacks to live decent
Not really. When looking at the native Black population in both areas, I don't think there's much difference. However, the transplant population is what makes the difference. DC's Black transplants are, on the whole, more educated and earn more whereas in Atlanta, they run the gamut in terms of educational attainment and income, and probably even age groups as I'd suspect Atlanta attracts a lot more Black retirees than DC.
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Old 08-24-2016, 12:41 PM
 
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Union City $189,810

2412 Quincy Loop #160, Fairburn, GA 30213 | MLS #8050836 | Zillow

Marietta, Ga $229k
1397 Dallas Cir SW, Marietta, GA 30064 | MLS #5737971 | Zillow



Take these for example. Once doesnt need to make $$$$ to live in these houses. They can live there making 50k per year

-Fairburn, GA 18-20 mile's from downtown Atlanta (Local Elementary school for above address rated 3 out of 10 on www.greatschool.org)
-Marrieta, GA 18-20 mile's from downtown Atlanta (Local Elementary school for above address rated 4 out of 10 on www.greatschool.org)

-Fort Washington MD 18-20 mile's from downtown D.C. (Local Elementary school for below address rated 5 out of 10 on www.greatschool.org)
-Bowie, MD 18-20 mile's from downtown D.C. (Local Elementary school for below address rated 9 out of 10 on www.greatschool.org)


Bowie, MD $299,999
12630 Millstream Dr, Bowie, MD 20715 | MLS #PG9741524 | Zillow

Bowie, MD $279,000
12419 Stretton Ln, Bowie, MD 20715 | Zillow

Fort Washington, MD $230,000
13409 Harrison Ave, Fort Washington, MD 20744 | MLS #PG9667324 | Zillow

Fort Washington, MD $274,999
903 Wrigley Pl, Fort Washington, MD 20744 | MLS #PG9723853 | Zillow

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Old 08-24-2016, 12:46 PM
 
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Not really. When looking at the native Black population in both areas, I don't think there's much difference. However, the transplant population is what makes the difference. DC's Black transplants are, on the whole, more educated and earn more whereas in Atlanta, they run the gamut in terms of educational attainment and income, and probably even age groups as I'd suspect Atlanta attracts a lot more Black retirees than DC.
I agree 100%
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Old 08-24-2016, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Can Black median monthly housing costs be broken out? I don't think PG has the dichotomy of DeKalb County, with Dunwoody, Druid Hills, and Decatur proper being more affluent, Whiter areas, which probably skews things somewhat here. Although it's a more tedious way of looking at it, Census tracts would probably be a better indicator.
Well, it's the median, not the mean, so I doubt those areas would skew the number that much.

Here are median monthly housing costs from some zips around the county.

30058 - $1,130
30038 - $1,118
30034 - $1,072
30288 - $1,045
30083 - $957
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Old 08-24-2016, 01:00 PM
 
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Black median incomes in some P.G. County census tracts are higher than the highest White median incomes in any metro Atlanta census tract. White households in Dunwoody, Georgia earn only 88% of what Black households in Glenn Dale, Maryland do.
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Old 08-24-2016, 01:54 PM
 
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Black median incomes in some P.G. County census tracts are higher than the highest White median incomes in any metro Atlanta census tract. White households in Dunwoody, Georgia earn only 88% of what Black households in Glenn Dale, Maryland do.
One of these days I will be as adept using the online Census tools as you are.

Oh, and that's believable.
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Old 08-24-2016, 02:08 PM
 
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One of these days I will be as adept using the online Census tools as you are.

Oh, and that's believable.
That is a part of the reason I use that one website, as they have a lot of information already laid out for you.
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Old 08-24-2016, 02:11 PM
 
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Black median incomes in some P.G. County census tracts are higher than the highest White median incomes in any metro Atlanta census tract. White households in Dunwoody, Georgia earn only 88% of what Black households in Glenn Dale, Maryland do.
Yup, as according to 2010-2014 census info, the Black median household income for Glenn Dale MD is/was $111,833 and the White median household income for Dunwoody GA is/was $85,252. Keep in mind that this info uses each of those years and averages the median out. So, this is something that is consistent over a period of time.
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