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Old 09-16-2016, 11:01 AM
 
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That doesn't mean it can't be a suburb. Camden, NJ is in the same boat and it is a suburb of Philly. However, it's not "suburban" in the sense of being a post-WWII bedroom community but in terms of its relationship to the primary city of the metro area.
I wouldn't call Camden NJ or Chester PA suburbs, but I would agree with satellite city. Camden has its own suburbs and it is technically mentioned as a city center within the Philadelphia metro area(its government name is the Philadelphia-Camden-Wilmington, PA-NJ-DE-MD metropolitan statistical area).
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Old 09-16-2016, 11:18 AM
 
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Gary is in the Chicago MSA because it meets the criteria to be included as defined by the US Census Bureau. That doesn't mean it's a suburb of Chicago.
Functionally, it is a suburb or a satellite city (probably a bit more appropriate) of Chicago since it depends on Chicago for jobs. That's pretty much the entire basis for being considered such.

Whichever term you prefer, Gary isn't just a city in Indiana that just happens to be included in the Chicago MSA. There's clearly a relationship of dependency there.

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I wouldn't call Camden NJ or Chester PA suburbs, but I would agree with satellite city. Camden has its own suburbs and it is technically mentioned as a city center within the Philadelphia metro area(its government name is the Philadelphia-Camden-Wilmington, PA-NJ-DE-MD metropolitan statistical area).
Camden is functionally a suburb although it's not suburban as far as the built environment goes. It has what I might call legacy suburbs that used to depend on it when it was a much healthier city, but these days it is mostly economically dependent on Philly. I lived in a town in Camden County for a year and outside of some county government stuff, I didn't get a sense that there was a reliance on Camden for anything as the vast majority of people went to Philly for just about everything. The naming convention as far as MSA goes is primarily dependent on municipal population.
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Old 09-17-2016, 10:04 PM
 
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I think Charlotte and Houston come close.
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Old 09-30-2016, 05:10 PM
 
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I think Charlotte and Houston come close.
They are up there...
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Old 09-30-2016, 09:18 PM
 
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As a state, Delaware may actually fit.

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Old 09-30-2016, 09:39 PM
 
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As a state, Delaware may actually fit.
Besides maybe the Dover area, a place like Bear is about 37% Black and has a Black median household income about $5000 above the national figure. Nearby Middletown is about 27% Black and has a Black median household income about $9000 above the national figure.
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Old 10-01-2016, 06:07 AM
 
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Besides maybe the Dover area, a place like Bear is about 37% Black and has a Black median household income about $5000 above the national figure. Nearby Middletown is about 27% Black and has a Black median household income about $9000 above the national figure.
Brookside(about 22% Black) is another community with a Black median household income above the national figure($59,392 according to 2010-2014 info versus $53,482 for the US and $60,231 for DE for the same period).

Glasgow, which is adjacent to Bear and Brookside, is about 23% Black and had a Black median household income of $73,393(10-14 info).
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Old 10-01-2016, 07:02 PM
 
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Brookside(about 22% Black) is another community with a Black median household income above the national figure($59,392 according to 2010-2014 info versus $53,482 for the US and $60,231 for DE for the same period).

Glasgow, which is adjacent to Bear and Brookside, is about 23% Black and had a Black median household income of $73,393(10-14 info).
Clayton, a small community in the Dover area, is 29% Black and has/had a Black median household income of $87,014 for the same period.
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Old 10-13-2016, 08:31 PM
 
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I don't know if this article was posted, but it does make a case for Dallas to be included in regards to the thread topic: The New Black South

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Old 10-13-2016, 08:48 PM
 
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I don't know if this article was posted, but it does make a case for Dallas to be included in regards to the thread topic: The New Black South
We talked about Dallas plenty in this thread and if that article wasn't already posted in this thread, it's been posted in other similar threads.
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