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Old 03-29-2018, 10:56 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn the best borough in NYC!
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Gentrification is pushing them out of the center of the city. Also a lot of those are new comers from the Caribbean. those neighborhoods are also lower density, meaning that even if the percentage of black people seems to increase, it dosent make up for the loss in higher density areas like crown heights.

Black people are moving to the south and white people are gentrifying the old north, those are the facts of the day.
What does the Caribbean have to do with it? Are Caribbean people black or no? Caribbean folks have been holding down the black community in NYC for decades. They helped continue the large growth of the Black middle class and most of their communities are 80-90% black with black owned businesses and high homeownership.

To say what they have accomplished and to say their neighborhoods are irrelevant sounds ignorant!
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Old 03-29-2018, 11:00 AM
 
Location: BMORE!
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Gentrification is pushing them out of the center of the city. Also a lot of those are new comers from the Caribbean. those neighborhoods are also lower density, meaning that even if the percentage of black people seems to increase, it dosent make up for the loss in higher density areas like crown heights.

Black people are moving to the south and white people (and Asians) are gentrifying the old north, those are the facts of the day.
Exactly.
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Old 03-29-2018, 11:01 AM
 
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Also upthere22 what exactly is a “relevant” and “irrelevant” black neighborhood? Lmao. Does that even make any sense lol?

Don’t argue with 12 year old logic please.
Relevant meaning populated by people that foster the betterment of black people, like Harlem, birth place of some of the most relevant African Americans persons and institutions, place of the american black theater, the Shomburg center for black Culture, Studio museum, all fostered by people from that neighborhood, so yes Harlem is more relevant for black people and culture than those neighborhoods that you insist on mentioning that no one knows or care. Some Neighborhoods are just populated by people that think alike, like hipsters tend to live in the same hoods, gays do the same. The Black intelligentsia has always lived in Harlem, not on your middle class professional utopias that you think matter. So the fall of Harlem is a great loss for the black community and will not be replaced by any suburban hood.

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Old 03-29-2018, 11:03 AM
 
Location: BMORE!
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NYC Metro still has the largest number of blacks in America and also one of the highest amounts of middle class areas. Black professionals also still move up to NYC. Clinton Hill, Forte Green and Harlem are black professional hot spots so nope. Still a top tier city and also the city with the most diverse black population!
Largest isnt as important as prominence, especially in the context of NYC. Black people in NYC simply aren't as prominent to the overall city as they once were. 20 years ago, yes, they were, but not in 2018. No way.
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Old 03-29-2018, 11:05 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn the best borough in NYC!
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Exactly.
Nope! Population decrease in NYC case doesnít eliminate it from being a top tier place, especially when mostly people who canít afford the rent are leaving.

Thatís much different compared to cities like Baltimore and Chicago where blacks are leaving because of social ills!
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Old 03-29-2018, 11:07 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn the best borough in NYC!
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Largest isnt as important as prominence, especially in the context of NYC. Black people in NYC simply aren't as prominent to the overall city as they once were. 20 years ago, yes, they were, but not in 2018. No way.
NYC was going through a crack epedemic between 1990 and 1995. End thread you donít know what youíre talkin about! But Iím not surprised.

Black folks were in the worst position in NYC between 1985 to 1995.
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Old 03-29-2018, 11:12 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn the best borough in NYC!
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What are the guidelines for posting pics here? Iím bout to expose Kodeblues terminologies (yet again) by showing pics of Harlem in the 1980s and I want the people in the post to seriously think to themselves if Harlem in that state was top teir or Mecca lmao

Here is a thread showcasing much of Harlem from 1965 to 1995

Brutal New York - 1965/95 - SkyscraperCity

Yup according to Kodeblue. Burned out buildings, crack needles everywhere, abondoned burnt out buildings and yearly average of 100 homicides in 1 neighborhood was top teir. Lmao!

Now I have to question if Kodeblue is white.
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Old 03-29-2018, 11:16 AM
 
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What are the guidelines for posting pics here? Iím bout to expose Kodeblues terminologies (yet again) by showing pics of Harlem in the 1980s and I want the people in the post to seriously think to themselves if Harlem in that state was top teir or Mecca lmao

Here is a thread showcasing much of Harlem from 1965 to 1995

Brutal New York - 1965/95 - SkyscraperCity

Yup according to Kodeblue. Burned out buildings, crack needles everywhere, abondoned burnt out buildings and yearly average of 100 homicides in 1 neighborhood was top teir. Lmao!

Now I have to question if Kodeblue is white.
No need to play the race card.
I am black and agree with him.
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Old 03-29-2018, 11:17 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn the best borough in NYC!
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No need to play the race card.
I am black and agree with him.
You can agree all you want. But the fact is you are very wrong. Black intelligence and the black reneesaice of Harlem was pre 1970.

I was joking about the white part but don’t speak on things you do not know. And the link of pics I posted in that paragraph is whats needed to show how wrong you are!

Harlem actually gained more black intelligence during the current gentrification with a young black professional scene and vendors being opened up by black folks.

116th St which was bombed out in the old days is now called Little Senegal aka French Africa!

That’s just one of a few examples!

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Old 03-29-2018, 11:28 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn the best borough in NYC!
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Relevant meaning populated by people that foster the betterment of black people, like Harlem, birth place of some of the most relevant African Americans persons and institutions, place of the american black theater, the Shomburg center for black Culture, Studio museum, all fostered by people from that neighborhood, so yes Harlem is more relevant for black people and culture than those neighborhoods that you insist on mentioning that no one knows or care. Some Neighborhoods are just populated by people that think alike, like hipsters tend to live in the same hoods, gays do the same. The Black intelligentsia has always lived in Harlem, not on your middle class professional utopias that you think matter. So the fall of Harlem is a great loss for the black community and will not be replaced by any suburban hood.
“Relevant meaning populated by people that foster to the betterment of black pekple”

But the middle class neighborhoods in the city that are 90% black owned and foster to black owned businesses are irrelevant. LMFAOOO!

Ok bro. You win! Lmao!

And no Harlem’s success was pre 1970. Harlem was a dump for the next 30 years actually became more black intelligent during gentrification!
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