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Old 06-09-2018, 01:49 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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i think it used to be. but statistically there will be more non-african-american black persons than african-americans in the u.s.a. so most tend to refer to us as generically black.
How do you come to this weird conclusion?
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Old 06-09-2018, 10:12 PM
 
Location: NYC, VA, JP
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Seems hypocritical to ask for integration...then proceed to voluntarily self-segregate. I also don’t see whites seeking out the white Mecca, Asians seeking out the Asian Mecca, Hispanics seeking out the Hispanic Mecca, etc.

Imagine if someone made this same thread but replaced “black” with “white.” They would be labeled a Neo-Nazi KKK member.
Except, all of those races you mentioned, do seek out places where their kind are doing well, or share common cultural nuances and values/views. Especially Asians and Hispanics. I'm not sure how you don't see it, it's not hard to find. Miami wouldn't be what it is today if not for it being perceived as a "Hispanic mecca", mainly by Hispanics themselves.

Why label it "self-segregation" instead of "self-empowerment"? "Self-sufficiency"? Seems this society is too used to blacks being coddled by others. It's not about alienation, it's racial autonomy. When East Asians do it and invest within their community, they're praised as model citizens, but blacks are made to be some type of rebel entity "segregating" from society as if it's some threat.

Desegregation was a move to mobilize blacks as legitimate members of society and break the pattern of disenfranchisement and discrimination, and the affluence of prominent black communities in cities listed in this very thread is a result of that effort. The thread is to highlight these communities that are often overlooked/ignored/forgotten in American society.
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Old 06-09-2018, 11:43 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn the best borough in NYC!
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I think self-segregation is associated with cultural differences. America is such a diverse place with so many cultures that you’re going to see self-segregation to some degree. People like different things and typically would rather hang with people that act like they do. People tend to act a certain way based on their race in general.

As for Black Mecca, I think you have to separate that based on living preference. I think the urban Black Mecca’s will always be DC and NYC. I think the suburban Black Mecca’s are definitely Atlanta, Charlotte, and Houston. Living in DC proper and NYC offers a very different lifestyle than Atlanta, Charlotte, or Houston. People looking for a slower, less dense, cheaper lifestyle are moving to those cities in droves. People who still want an urban lifestyle in a dense city are still moving to NYC and DC. Different strokes for different folks even within the same race.
That’s true. Whenever I check black women on Tinder I notice a lot of southern black transplants who live in NYC, Philly and DC so lifestyle is definitely a plus!
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Old 06-10-2018, 10:02 AM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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I'm not saying Houston or Atlanta (don't know about Charlotte) are as urban as DC or NYC. But if you move to those two sunbelt city cores and expecting a "suburban" lifestyle, chances are, you will be disappointed. The fact is, Blacks aren't moving to Houston and Atlanta proper more than they are moving to their suburbs. But the ones that do move to the cores aren't exactly getting an urban lifestyle akin to DC or NYC, but they also aren't getting a suburban lifestyle similar to Woodbridge or Naperville either. It also comes down to which suburban you're talking about when it comes to their cores? Upper Marlboro or Rosslyn?

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Old 06-10-2018, 10:57 AM
 
Location: Denver
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i think it used to be. but statistically there will be more non-african-american black persons than african-americans in the u.s.a. so most tend to refer to us as generically black.
Non African? You're as African as I am. Why do islanders deny African heritage?
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Old 06-10-2018, 12:37 PM
 
Location: (six-cent-dix-sept)
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+1

Seems hypocritical to ask for integration...then proceed to voluntarily self-segregate. I also don’t see whites seeking out the white Mecca, Asians seeking out the Asian Mecca, Hispanics seeking out the Hispanic Mecca, etc.

Imagine if someone made this same thread but replaced “black” with “white.” They would be labeled a Neo-Nazi KKK member.
their are a few hispanic/italian/irish/asian/indian/portuguese/...-centric threads.
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Old 06-10-2018, 02:13 PM
 
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Seems hypocritical to ask for integration...then proceed to voluntarily self-segregate.
We voluntarily self-segregated after Whites made it clear they didn't want to live in the same neighborhoods as Blacks or have their children attend schools with Black children. Don't sit here and imply that White America enthusiastically embraced desegregation and Black folks voluntarily self-segregated without cause or reason. That's extremely disingenuous on your part but it's not surprising at all that folks have such an ill-informed perspective.
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Old 06-10-2018, 04:55 PM
 
Location: (six-cent-dix-sept)
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How do you come to this weird conclusion?
huh ?

the term afro-american is kinda' passé. especially since a growing number of black persons in this country identify with the nation they (or their parents) immagrated from. since the 90's i've noticed that most black persons refer to themselves as black. maybe it depends on where one grew up ?
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Old 06-10-2018, 05:10 PM
 
Location: (six-cent-dix-sept)
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Non African? You're as African as I am. Why do islanders deny African heritage?
african usually pertains to ralating to africa.

african-american usually pertains to southern u.s.a. slave descent heritage and culture.

are cap-verdeans considered to be afro-american ?

par example, southern style soul-food is drastically different than what (and how) one eats at a moroccan restaurant.
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Old 06-10-2018, 06:52 PM
 
Location: Tupelo, Ms
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huh ?

the term afro-american is kinda' passé. especially since a growing number of black persons in this country identify with the nation they (or their parents) immagrated from. since the 90's i've noticed that most black persons refer to themselves as black. maybe it depends on where one grew up ?
Not the terminology. The notion that other Black ethnicities ( Non African Americans) will outgrow African Americans. Where does that notion comes from?
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