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Old 09-28-2015, 07:50 AM
 
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Boston isn't anti-Black in the sense there's constant outright hostility against Black people. It's just not a terrific place for Black people (most places aren't). Boston has a hard time attracting young Black professionals and most of the Black students there would rather start careers in NYC, DC, LA, Chicago or Atlanta.
I think a lot of that has to do with its location/geography, the busing/Black athlete history and the lack of knowledge of the Black history/community in the area.

Also, military towns/areas tend to or can be pretty good as well. For instance, the top 2 metros in NY State in regards to Black median household income have a strong military presence (Poughkeepsie-Newburgh-Middletown(median Black HH income: $54,638(2008-2012) and West Point and an Air Base) and Watertown(median Black HH income: $53,000(08-12) and Fort Drum).

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Old 09-28-2015, 08:15 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Updated totals.

New York - 71,795 (5.0%)
Washington - 58,250 (8.3%)
Atlanta - 41,525 (5.6%)
Chicago - 30,620 (4.9%)
Los Angeles - 28,210 (7.4%)
Houston - 20,885 (4.8%)
Dallas - 20,420 (5.0%)
Philadelphia - 20,205 (4.2%)
Miami - 16,960 (3.5%)
Detroit - 15,020 (4.4%)
Bay Area - 12,742 (7.6%)
Boston - 8,794 (5.9%)
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Old 09-28-2015, 08:37 AM
 
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Updated totals.

New York - 71,795 (5.0%)
Washington - 58,250 (8.3%)
Atlanta - 41,525 (5.6%)
Chicago - 30,620 (4.9%)
Los Angeles - 28,210 (7.4%)
Houston - 20,885 (4.8%)
Dallas - 20,420 (5.0%)
Philadelphia - 20,205 (4.2%)
Miami - 16,960 (3.5%)
Detroit - 15,020 (4.4%)
Bay Area - 12,742 (7.6%)
Boston - 8,794 (5.9%)
Good stuff. LA and the Bay Area have strongly niched economies and the Black professionals there tend to work in their signature industries, so no surprise at their high percentages.

What about higher-paying blue collar professions?
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Old 09-28-2015, 08:45 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Good stuff. LA and the Bay Area have strongly niched economies and the Black professionals there tend to work in their signature industries, so no surprise at their high percentages.
You don't have many Blacks working in Silicon Valley. Not as techies anyway.

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What about higher-paying blue collar professions?
I could so something on that later though I imagine the rankings would look similar. Big white-collar employment bases create demand for a skilled blue-collar class.
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Old 09-28-2015, 08:47 AM
 
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Good stuff. LA and the Bay Area have strongly niched economies and the Black professionals there tend to work in their signature industries, so no surprise at their high percentages.

What about higher-paying blue collar professions?
Houston would increase with the blue collar jobs.
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Old 09-28-2015, 08:50 AM
 
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Houston would increase with the blue collar jobs.
Yes it would; I was actually thinking of Houston when I typed that. The energy industry in particular makes it possible to do really well there with just a 2-yr degree or even no degree at all.
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Old 09-28-2015, 08:53 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Here's an example of one category. These are good-paying jobs, btw. Some people turn their noses up at plumbers and pipefitters but dem dudes is gettin' paid.

Black Plumbers, Pipefitters and Steamfitters by MSA

Washington - 2,445
Atlanta - 1,765
Chicago - 1,515
Philadelphia - 985

It's not exactly what most people would expect. The popular perception of the Washington, DC region is that there's no blue collar class. There's a large blue collar class in the DC area, it's just disproportionately African American. These are the guys who drive metro trains/buses, take out the garbage, do your car inspections, pave roads, fix your plumbing, etc.
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Old 09-28-2015, 08:57 AM
 
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You don't have many Blacks working in Silicon Valley. Not as techies anyway.
Not so much as techies but in other areas. I know a guy who's written for VSB who moved from DC to the Bay Area to work at Google in communications.

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I could so something on that later though I imagine the rankings would look similar. Big white-collar employment bases create demand for a skilled blue-collar class.
True but you have metros that have more of a blue-collar base in general, like Detroit and Philly, that would probably perform well here--and of course Houston with the energy industry.
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Old 09-28-2015, 08:58 AM
 
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Here's an example of one category. These are good-paying jobs, btw. Some people turn their noses up at plumbers and pipefitters but dem dudes is gettin' paid.

Black Plumbers, Pipefitters and Steamfitters by MSA

Washington - 2,445
Atlanta - 1,765
Chicago - 1,515
Philadelphia - 985

It's not exactly what most people would expect. The popular perception of the Washington, DC region is that there's no blue collar class. There's a large blue collar class in the DC area, it's just disproportionately African American. These are the guys who drive metro trains/buses, take out the garbage, do your car inspections, pave roads, fix your plumbing, etc.
Those Metro workers make BANK.

What's NY's number?
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Old 09-28-2015, 08:58 AM
 
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
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DC's advantages are tied to the fact that it is the center of Federal gov't. Many of the black owned companies get Federal work, and so are located near to DC. The Federal gov't has traditional allowed more upward mobility for blacks, than has the corporate sector.

So is DC really better, or is that only so because this is where the Federal gov't is located?

Why do people have a problem with DC just being a mecca/magnet for blacks? Why do excuses have to be thrown around for DC having the federal gov as an advantage? There have always been countless black entrepreneurs and business owners in the DC area. Yes DC is really better. Which is why you see the overwhelming amount of successful blacks stand out slight in comparison to Atlanta and often times New York. That is not solely due to having Federal Government nearby. Most of these positions are not due to the simple fact of having federal government presence. Please let DC be great.

Black Physicians and Surgeons by MSA

New York - 4,630
Washington, DC - 2,340
Atlanta - 2,020
Chicago -1,955
Los Angeles - 1,785
Philadelphia - 1,320
Houston - 1,135
Detroit - 955
Dallas - 830
Miami - 740
Boston - 625
Bay Area - 595

Black Practicing Attorneys by MSA

Washington - 6,050
New York - 5,675
Atlanta - 3,045
Chicago - 2,435
Los Angeles - 2,400
Houston - 1,760
Philadelphia - 1,515
Bay Area - 1,200
Detroit - 1,090
Miami - 875
Dallas - 820
Boston - 460

Black Accountants by MSA

New York - 17,625
Washington - 15,695
Atlanta - 11,530
Chicago - 7,495
Dallas - 6,820
Los Angeles - 5,265
Houston - 5,420
Philadelphia - 4,730
Miami - 4,300
Detroit 3,450
Bay Area - 3,035
Boston - 2,160

Black Architects by MSA

Washington - 650
New York - 620
Atlanta - 415
Los Angeles - 390
Chicago - 290
Houston - 200
Miami - 155
Philadelphia - 125
Dallas - 115
Bay Area - 115
Boston - 110
Detroit - 90

Black Civil Engineers by MSA

New York - 1,440
Washington - 1,290
Houston - 850
Atlanta - 605
Bay Area - 565
Los Angeles - 460
Miami - 370
Chicago - 325
Philadelphia - 310
Dallas - 285
Detroit - 200
Boston - 150

Black Financial Analysts by MSA

New York - 990
Washington - 520
Atlanta - 410
Miami - 205
Boston - 195
Dallas - 185
Philadelphia - 180
Los Angeles - 175
Chicago - 170
Detroit - 145
Houston - 135
Bay Area - 120

Black Financial Managers by MSA

New York - 9,305
Washington - 5,530
Chicago -4,675
Atlanta - 4,580
Dallas - 3,260
Los Angeles - 2,780
Miami - 2,705
Philadelphia - 2,705
Houston - 2,280
Detroit - 1,580
Boston - 925
Bay Area - 910

Black Software Developers by MSA

Washington - 7,625
Atlanta - 3,510
New York - 2,190
Dallas - 1,125
Los Angeles - 1,515
Chicago - 1,105
Philadelphia - 1,100
Bay Area - 790
Houston - 720
Boston - 525
Detroit - 505
Miami - 465

Black Musicians, Singers and Related Workers by MSA

New York - 2,150
Los Angeles - 1,475
Atlanta - 1,275
Chicago - 1,080
Washington - 1,065
Philadelphia - 675
Dallas - 500
Houston - 465
Detroit - 435
Miami - 365
Bay Area - 325
Boston - 55

Black Artists and Related Workers by MSA

New York - 855
Los Angeles - 545
Atlanta - 340
Washington - 310
Chicago - 260
Dallas - 185
Bay Area - 155
Detroit - 145
Philadelphia - 140
Miami - 120
Houston - 95
Boston - 65


Black Writers and Authors by MSA

New York - 1,190
Washington - 1,160
Los Angeles - 710
Chicago - 630
Atlanta - 520
Philadelphia - 250
Houston - 235
Detroit - 215
Bay Area - 195
Dallas - 110
Miami - 110

Black Actors by MSA

Los Angeles - 975
New York - 735
Atlanta - 145
Washington - 135
Bay Area - 90
Chicago - 75
Philadelphia - 60
Houston - 55
Detroit - 30
Dallas - 25
Boston - 4
Miami - 0

Black Media and Communications Workers by MSA

New York - 430
Washington - 385
Boston - 125
Detroit - 140
Chicago - 100
Houston - 90
Atlanta - 85
Miami - 75
Los Angeles - 70
Dallas - 25
Philadelphia - 20
Bay Area - 10

Black Dentists by MSA

Washington - 545
New York - 535
Atlanta - 370
Chicago - 305
Houston - 215
Los Angeles - 175
Philadelphia - 170
Detroit - 145
Miami - 115
Bay Area - 100
Dallas - 70
Boston - 30

Black Post-Secondary Teachers by MSA

New York - 5,400
Washington - 3,435
Atlanta - 3,160
Chicago - 3,155
Los Angeles - 2,430
Houston - 2,010
Philadelphia - 1,990
Dallas - 1,440
Boston - 1,365
Miami - 1,270
Detroit - 1,025
Bay Area - 1,005

Black Medical and Life Scientists by MSA

Washington - 510
Atlanta - 485
New York - 405
Philadelphia - 310
Boston - 170
Houston - 150
Dallas - 145
Chicago - 110
Los Angeles - 60
Detroit - 55
Miami - 55
Bay Area - 40

Black Mathematicians and Statisticians by MSA

Washington - 330
New York - 290
Atlanta - 275
Philadelphia - 155
Chicago - 110
Dallas - 70
Los Angeles - 45
Detroit - 40
Bay Area - 30
Houston - 25
Boston - 20
Miami - 0

Black Economists by MSA

Washington - 700
New York - 165
Atlanta - 20
Bay Area - 15
Miami - 15
Boston - 0
Chicago - 0
Dallas - 0
Detroit - 0
Houston - 0
Los Angeles - 0
Philadelphia - 0
Black Executive/Senior Level Officials and Managers by MSA

New York - 3,855
Washington - 2,950
Atlanta - 2,290
Los Angeles - 2,155
Chicago - 1,900
Miami - 1,500
Philadelphia - 1,090
Bay Area - 1,030
Dallas - 1,050
Detroit - 755
Houston - 745
Boston - 340


Black Broadcast News Analysts by MSA

New York - 615
Washington - 395
Atlanta - 345
Los Angeles - 265
Miami - 190
Chicago - 180
Philadelphia - 170
Bay Area - 160
Dallas - 110
Detroit - 80
Houston - 35
Boston - 0

Black Physicians and Surgeons by MSA

New York - 4,630
Washington, DC - 2,340
Atlanta - 2,020
Chicago -1,955
Los Angeles - 1,785
Philadelphia - 1,320
Houston - 1,135
Detroit - 955
Dallas - 830
Miami - 740
Boston - 625
Bay Area - 595

Black Practicing Attorneys by MSA

Washington - 6,050
New York - 5,675
Atlanta - 3,045
Chicago - 2,435
Los Angeles - 2,400
Houston - 1,760
Philadelphia - 1,515
Bay Area - 1,200
Detroit - 1,090
Miami - 875
Dallas - 820
Boston - 460

Black Accountants by MSA

New York - 17,625
Washington - 15,695
Atlanta - 11,530
Chicago - 7,495
Dallas - 6,820
Los Angeles - 5,265
Houston - 5,420
Philadelphia - 4,730
Miami - 4,300
Detroit 3,450
Bay Area - 3,035
Boston - 2,160

Black Architects by MSA

Washington - 650
New York - 620
Atlanta - 415
Los Angeles - 390
Chicago - 290
Houston - 200
Miami - 155
Philadelphia - 125
Dallas - 115
Bay Area - 115
Boston - 110
Detroit - 90

Black Civil Engineers by MSA

New York - 1,440
Washington - 1,290
Houston - 850
Atlanta - 605
Bay Area - 565
Los Angeles - 460
Miami - 370
Chicago - 325
Philadelphia - 310
Dallas - 285
Detroit - 200
Boston - 150

Black Financial Analysts by MSA

New York - 990
Washington - 520
Atlanta - 410
Miami - 205
Boston - 195
Dallas - 185
Philadelphia - 180
Los Angeles - 175
Chicago - 170
Detroit - 145
Houston - 135
Bay Area - 120

Black Financial Managers by MSA

New York - 9,305
Washington - 5,530
Chicago -4,675
Atlanta - 4,580
Dallas - 3,260
Los Angeles - 2,780
Miami - 2,705
Philadelphia - 2,705
Houston - 2,280
Detroit - 1,580
Boston - 925
Bay Area - 910

Black Software Developers by MSA

Washington - 7,625
Atlanta - 3,510
New York - 2,190
Dallas - 1,125
Los Angeles - 1,515
Chicago - 1,105
Philadelphia - 1,100
Bay Area - 790
Houston - 720
Boston - 525
Detroit - 505
Miami - 465

Credit* Bajan for the statistics.
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