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Old 09-20-2015, 05:52 PM
 
Location: Syracuse, New York
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It seems strange that the Miami market is not top 10. I guess Palm Beach is still not included which doesn't make sense.
West Palm Beach has its own stations.

What's irritating is when sports talk show hosts claim that the Miami Heat are a small market team. I'm pretty sure those in the West Palm Beach market consider them the local team.
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Old 09-20-2015, 06:01 PM
 
Location: Washington State desert
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Absolutely, I didn't make the thread to advertise DMA's as a means to measure population.

I think its important to familiarize yourselves with the DMA territory map. For example, there are parts of the Los Angeles Media Market that are EVEN FURTHER NORTH geographically than the San Francisco Bay Area Media Market. For those that aren't geography people, San Francisco Bay Area is a place in Northern California, while Los Angeles is a place in Southern California. This clearly shouldn't be taken seriously as a gauge to measure the size of a city. That goes without saying.

http://dishuser.org/TVMarkets/Maps/T...guous%20US.gif

Also, as the data suggests, television and television markets are becoming obsolete. Each year prominent markets post declines in total registered television households. It's pretty clear that the Internet is decommissioning the DMA television markets rapidly. So with a declining measurement of households, the DMA has relatively little stock.

You are talking about a sparsely populated area south of Lake Tahoe in California. Really isn't much. Most cities of any size in this general area receive either Reno or Bay Area stations.
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Old 09-20-2015, 06:22 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, New York
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Noted. However what makes more sense for an MSA inclusion.

A. Two intertwined regions that basically grew together and are 100 feet apart.

Or

A. Trenton commuter goes to work in Princeton.Princeton commuters tend to work in New Brunswick,New Brunswick workers head to Morristown,Morristown to Jersey City,jersey City people work in NY.Therefore Trenton is a part of NYC. Absurd..
False analogy. There are more people commuting directly from Mercer county to Manhattan than there are people who commute from Trenton to Philadelphia, plus all the other core NYC counties in NNJ. The top 5 commuter counties for Mercer county, where Trenton is located, are all in the NYC MSA.
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Old 09-20-2015, 06:34 PM
 
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False analogy. There are more people commuting directly from Mercer county to Manhattan than there are people who commute from Trenton to Philadelphia, plus all the other core NYC counties in NNJ. The top 5 commuter counties for Mercer county, where Trenton is located, are all in the NYC MSA.
People are always crying about this. I've learned to just ignore it now. Bottom line, NYC has more pull, power, and appeal. It's just how it is. Philly will never be equal and the metro region designations reflect that and probably always will. The cities are just too close together and one will inevitably come out on top.
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Old 09-20-2015, 07:21 PM
 
Location: Villanova Pa.
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False analogy. There are more people commuting directly from Mercer county to Manhattan than there are people who commute from Trenton to Philadelphia, plus all the other core NYC counties in NNJ.
Don't be daft.

There are arguably more workers commuting from Alameda County to Santa Clara/San Jose than there are to San Fran. Does that mean Oakland is a part of the San Jose MSA? Of course not. San Fran/Oakland have always shared an historical relationship , commuting is down on the list in order of closeness to sibling cities. Same concept with Philly/Trenton.

If you take out the connecting counties in Central Jersey(Hunterdon/Middlesex/Somerset) the Mercer worker flows are about even to Philly and NYC/North Jersey msa's.
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Old 09-20-2015, 07:24 PM
 
Location: Villanova Pa.
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People are always crying about this. I've learned to just ignore it now. Bottom line, NYC has more pull, power, and appeal. It's just how it is. Philly will never be equal and the metro region designations reflect that and proht
JerseyGirl just stay off our beaches. Please stay due north of Ocean City.
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Old 09-20-2015, 07:29 PM
 
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JerseyGirl just stay off our beaches. Please stay due north of Ocean City.
Uh huh.
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Old 09-21-2015, 07:03 AM
 
Location: The City
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I always find these maps interesting they are based on where people associate and also have rooting association by sports teams

CommonCensus Map Project - Maps
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Old 09-21-2015, 08:36 AM
 
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TV Markets rankings are so funny. Look at Greenville, SC is ranked higher than Las Vegas! But that is due to the fact the TV market is all of Upstate SC and all of Western NC, and part of NW Georgia.
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Old 09-21-2015, 10:11 AM
 
Location: near downtown Greenville, SC (viewing the sunset vicariously at the North Gulf Shore Beach Access)
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TV Markets rankings are so funny. Look at Greenville, SC is ranked higher than Las Vegas! But that is due to the fact the TV market is all of Upstate SC and all of Western NC, and part of NW Georgia.
part of NE Georgia...my ABC station is out of Asheville, NC - local weather reporting is crazy here due to significant elevation change - the lower Upstate may be sunny/mild while it's heavily snowing in Asheville
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