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Old 10-02-2015, 05:39 PM
 
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What's a Combined Statistical Area?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combined_Statistical_Area
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Old 10-03-2015, 12:06 AM
 
Location: So California
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What's a Combined Statistical Area?
It's a beautiful statistical measure that accurately portrays the relative size of a metropolitan area.
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Old 10-03-2015, 09:01 AM
 
Location: MPLS/CHI
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Basically its a meaningless sham to allow mid tier cities to combine forces and appear bigger/more important than they actually are.


He/she asked.

This pretty much sums it up.
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Old 10-03-2015, 12:36 PM
 
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What is going on in Hampton Roads? There are no in-your-face "uglies" about the region as to why people and jobs aren't moving there, and yet, not only is it perennially one of the slowest growing metros in population (has been passed up by Nashville and Austin, among others, in the last decade), but in 2014, among all metros with a $50-plus economy, Hampton Roads had the second lowest economic growth, at only 1.93%. Only New Orleans (0.91%) had a lower growth for areas above $50 billion GDP...

What does Hampton Roads have to do to become competitive?
It's always shocking to me that no one there really seems to care that the area is stagnant. I don't get it.
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Old 10-04-2015, 09:59 AM
 
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It's a beautiful statistical measure that accurately portrays the relative size of a metropolitan area.
"beautiful" and "accurately" , are your serious, or being "tongue and cheek"?
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Old 10-04-2015, 03:21 PM
 
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Detroit has all the "bones" and could be primed for growth, it just needs to find the seeds for that growth. The auto market is coming back, I'm sure that's a piece of it.

Detroit:
2010: 6.5% growth
2011: 4.5%
2012: 4.8%
2013: 4.6%
2014: 4.4%

VERY stable and solid growth by the metro, impressive. That's a 27% growth in GDP over 5 years with nearly ZERO population growth. It's just what the metro needed. Get your economy running again, get the unemployment down and don't add any more people during that time. Clean house before inviting more neighbors...

The metro has added over 250,000 jobs in the past five years and reduced unemployment from 17% to 6%.
It's just the cyclical nature of the auto industry. There's nothing happening in Detroit that hasn't happened throughout the city's history. There are deep recessions and then big job gains as the auto industry recovers.

The U.S. auto industry is performing very well right now, so the region has a strong economy. In a few years the economy will dip again, auto sales will decrease, and the region will go back into recession.
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Old 10-04-2015, 03:26 PM
 
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This is true, however Detroit's situation is a bit different after the bailout. The legacy costs are under control at the auto makers, and the suppliers have a monster presence. However the biggest single factor in Metro Detroit's economic growth over population growth is the shift in its economy. It was of course always the home of the big 3, but it was also the hub of the manufacturing. Manufacturing started trickling out in the 70's. The growth in Detroit now is very heavily weighted in the STEM sectors, and not manufacturing. It means that Detroit is solidified itself as the automotive brain trust in a more stable sector, with those desirable "bachelors degree or higher" positions.
This is definitely not true. The auto industry in Detroit has been heavily "bachelors or higher" for decades now. The vast majority of Detroit-area auto employment is in suppliers and engineering firms that are filled with tens of thousands of skilled engineers, often with Masters degree or higher.

There's actually more auto assembly jobs in Central Mexico now than in Michigan. Michigan's auto economy is an engineering sector more so than a manufacturing one. But it's just as cyclical as ever, and the underlying problems are still in existence, so the region will continue to be stagnant overall.
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Old 10-04-2015, 03:30 PM
 
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"beautiful" and "accurately" , are your serious, or being "tongue and cheek"?
To be fair, that was a more accurate definition than the previous CSA definition.

CSA's don't "boost" mid-size metros. The business rules for CSAs are applied to all cities in exactly the same manner, so there can be no "boost". You might not like the metric, but it doesn't favor any type of metro.
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Old 10-04-2015, 05:08 PM
 
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To be fair, that was a more accurate definition than the previous CSA definition.

CSA's don't "boost" mid-size metros. The business rules for CSAs are applied to all cities in exactly the same manner, so there can be no "boost". You might not like the metric, but it doesn't favor any type of metro.
Well, I didn't express an opinion, rather I asked a question and it has not be answered. No worries.
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Old 10-04-2015, 05:11 PM
 
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Comparing GDP of Western Metros Excluding the 1st tier Metros of the West:
These are stand only metros with little or no connection to a nearby larger metro.

1. Portland - $159 million - (pop 2.5 million)

2. Sacramento - $113 million - (pop 2.2 million)

3. Las Vegas - $94 million - (pop 2.1 million)

4. Salt Lake City - $75 million - (pop 1.4 million)

5. Alburquerque - $42 million - (pop 905,000)

6. Bakersfield - $40 million - (pop 875,000)

7. Fresno - $37 million - (pop 966,000)

8. Tucson - $35 million (pop 1 million)

9. Boise - $29 million (pop 667,000)

10. Spokane - $22 - million (pop 541,000)

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