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View Poll Results: Which is more urban in the core?
LA 21 60.00%
Seattle 14 40.00%
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Old 09-25-2015, 07:54 PM
 
Location: Seattle aka tier 3 city :)
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Which of these 2 cities feels more urban in the core? Core meaning downtown and adjacent neighborhoods.
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Old 09-25-2015, 08:11 PM
 
Location: LoS ScAnDaLoUs KiLLa CaLI
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That's kind of hard to decide. I've worked in both areas (6th and Flower currently here in LA, 5th and Marion in Seattle) and they both feel equally urban.

I will comment on this though - during non-work hours, DT Seattle does feel like it has more foot traffic than DTLA mostly because it has more stuff in DT relative to how much stuff is in DTLA vs. the rest of LA. During work hours, DTLA has more foot traffic.

Of course I'm relating this to the areas I work - Broadway in LA obviously is always busy, and so is Little Tokyo and Chinatown. Pikes Peak Market is always full of tourists going to the first Starbucks (which legit is like every other Starbucks)

That depends on what your meaning on urban though. I'm of the opinion that at a certain point, you can't get any more "urban' than a place is.
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Old 09-25-2015, 08:34 PM
 
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LA due to sheer size...both are densely built, urban cities but LA is much larger.
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Old 09-25-2015, 08:39 PM
 
Location: Washington State desert
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LA may have the upper hand as we move forward, as others have said, it is a much larger city. However, Seattle seems to be the leader right now, with huge development in areas in downtown, South Lake Union, SoDo, and Belltown. The place will be unrecognizable in 5 years.
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Old 09-25-2015, 09:47 PM
 
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LA may have the upper hand as we move forward, as others have said, it is a much larger city. However, Seattle seems to be the leader right now, with huge development in areas in downtown, South Lake Union, SoDo, and Belltown. The place will be unrecognizable in 5 years.
And LA doesn't? Doesn't it have like 5500 units under construction in downtown LA alone?
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Old 09-26-2015, 12:11 AM
 
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If you mean adjacent neighborhoods...

Westlake/City West/Pico Union are pretty damn dense.
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Old 09-26-2015, 12:48 AM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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And LA doesn't? Doesn't it have like 5500 units under construction in downtown LA alone?
Over 10,000/uc now, with 13,000 more proposed.

A few of those proposals are pipe dreams, but most aren't.

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If you mean adjacent neighborhoods...

Westlake/City West/Pico Union are pretty damn dense.
Yup, and all have mixed-use projects in various stages of construction. Their potential to densify further is pretty remarkable.
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Old 09-26-2015, 12:52 AM
 
Location: Seattle, WA
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These threads are all starting to sound the same. Here's what I commented about this topic in another thread on the topic of both downtowns:

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All in all, Seattle has more jobs and residents downtown. LA also really can't compare to the number of tech jobs being added in Downtown Seattle. DTLA is seeing a lot of hotel and residential growth, but Seattle too is adding a ton of residential towers, including the newly announced residential super tall which will be the tallest skyscraper on the west coast.

Lastly, DTLA has a sizable office vacancy rate which is why DTLA isn't seeing much office development. Conversely, Seattle's office space is being eaten up quickly and we're seeing thousands of square feet of office space going up. Clearly Dowton Seattle is far ahead of DTLA in terms of office job growth.

So in terms of density, I'd give this one to Seattle which has a higher density of residents and office jobs downtown.

Quoted from the Wiki:

"With about 65,000 now living in Seattle's core neighborhoods (in 2015), Downtown Seattle's population is growing. Downtown saw a 10 percent increase in the number of occupied housing units and an 8 percent increase in population between 2010 and 2014, outpacing growth in the city as a whole. As of the end of 2014, there were 32 apartment and 2 condominium projects under construction, representing over 5,000 units."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Downtown_Seattle

As for DTLA, this is from their Wiki:

"As of 2014 the population of the district had grown to 52,400 residents, and 5200 residential units were under construction."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Downtown_Los_Angeles
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Old 09-26-2015, 01:27 AM
 
Location: Seattle aka tier 3 city :)
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These threads are all starting to sound the same. Here's what I commented about this topic in another thread on the topic of both downtowns:
What about Raymondchandlor's response:

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If you're going to include those neighborhoods as part of Seattle's core, wouldn't it be fair to do the same for Los Angeles? After all, I'd wager 90% of those 52,000 DTLA residents live in an area no larger than 2 sq miles:





The rest is mostly industrial districts, save for a few tracts in the Arts District. If we added a few square miles east of the 110 Freeway, we're looking at a population well north of 100,000.
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Old 09-26-2015, 02:28 AM
 
Location: Seattle, WA
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Well how far are we to go to calculate the city core? And it's not like Seattle falters as Capitol Hill, the neighborhood east of Downtown, is one of Seattle's densest neighborhoods.
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