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Old 09-29-2015, 06:15 PM
 
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Both are great cities and it sucks when one specific poster is so off base that it causes an over correction from other people where they now have to (very mildly) speak negatively about the other city to rebalance things.

 
Old 09-29-2015, 06:20 PM
 
Location: East Central Pennsylvania/ Chicago for 6yrs.
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Here we go again.... it becomes a city vs. city tit for tat thread.... but guess I can be guilty too...
 
Old 09-29-2015, 07:04 PM
 
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Chicago is a lovely city, don't get me wrong, but when pitted against San Francisco with it's iconic landmarks and architecture, mild weather, breathtaking natural scenery, etc., it just can't compete.

I tend to weigh lifestyle factors (e.g., weather, scenery, local culture, nearby travel destinations, etc.) very heavily, so for me personally, San Francisco will always, always come out on top of any Midwestern city, even Chicago.
 
Old 09-30-2015, 12:10 AM
 
Location: Dallas TX sucks
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I think San Francisco is a very nice place. However there are No blacks in San Fran. I saw one black person during the whole day, ONE. Talk about feeling alone.
 
Old 09-30-2015, 12:23 AM
 
Location: Boston
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I think San Francisco is a very nice place. However there are No blacks in San Fran. I saw one black person during the whole day, ONE. Talk about feeling alone.
There is no such thing as a black man in San Francisco

~ Mark Twain
 
Old 09-30-2015, 01:31 AM
 
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Old 09-30-2015, 01:57 PM
 
Location: Upper West Side, Manhattan, NYC
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Chicago is a lovely city, don't get me wrong, but when pitted against San Francisco with it's iconic landmarks and architecture, mild weather, breathtaking natural scenery, etc., it just can't compete.
The "architecture" part of your statement sounds like you don't know much of anything about Chicago. And while I agree that the Bay Area has better natural scenery, the lakefront of Chicago is actually very beautiful. I was entertaining some visitors from Paris and Italy this weekend who couldn't stop talking about how nice the lakefront was in Chicago.

Yeah, SF has the Golden Gate Bridge - but at the end of the day, most people could care less about being in a city with iconic structures. Architecture is another story - and Chicago just like SF has tons of great architecture. Thinking that Chicago somehow doesn't have great architecture in a lot of places is kind of ignorant, which by the way - perfect timing. The Architecture Bienniel with architects and firms/studios from all around the world starts this week in Chicago (Inaugural Chicago Architecture Biennial Reveals Official List of 2015 Participants | ArchDaily) until the beginning of 2016.

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Old 09-30-2015, 04:44 PM
 
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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Chicago is a lovely city, don't get me wrong, but when pitted against San Francisco with it's iconic landmarks and architecture, mild weather, breathtaking natural scenery, etc., it just can't compete.

I tend to weigh lifestyle factors (e.g., weather, scenery, local culture, nearby travel destinations, etc.) very heavily, so for me personally, San Francisco will always, always come out on top of any Midwestern city, even Chicago.
San Fran does boast milder weather and gorgeous natural scenery, true. But if you think Chicago doesnt boast good architecture, youre sorely mistaken. It usually ranks as the best city to view architecture, more so than San Fran.
 
Old 09-30-2015, 09:52 PM
 
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It depends what the starting point is. If it's 25% more than lets say, $50,000 (base), definitely not. If it's 25% more than $200,000 (base): you have to be absolutely horrible with your money to not take that. I don't care what city it is, if you can't survive on $250,000/year, you're an idiot.
While that is a valid point, I'm not thinking just in terms of not going broke.

$250,000 is going to allow you to live comfortably in San Francisco, but $200,000 will still probably allow you to live more comfortably in Chicago.

Yes, you are going to be pretty high income in either place, but Chicago is still a better value.

I would think that would continue for household incomes up to a certain point, higher than $200-$250,000.
 
Old 09-30-2015, 10:02 PM
 
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Chicago is a lovely city, don't get me wrong, but when pitted against San Francisco with it's iconic landmarks and architecture, mild weather, breathtaking natural scenery, etc., it just can't compete.

I tend to weigh lifestyle factors (e.g., weather, scenery, local culture, nearby travel destinations, etc.) very heavily, so for me personally, San Francisco will always, always come out on top of any Midwestern city, even Chicago.
I can agree that the weather is typically much better in San Francisco. And I think that scenery and "travel destinations" is going to be pretty subjective, so I don't want to get into a debate about it.

I don't really know what you mean by "local culture," though. Could you clarify?

In my understanding of "local culture," San Francisco is not universally understood as "ahead" of Chicago, which is how I understood your argument...
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