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Old 10-15-2015, 11:06 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX and wherever planes fly
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It would be nice to see a report that's ostensibly about ethno-racial diversity actually address the "ethnic" part of the equation. This is why we get these reports declaring Robeson County, NC the most "diverse county in the nation."

But it is. Tons of varying American Indian tribes represented there. It's mind boggling. My grandmother is from there. Lumbee Indian. There are some very small places with staggering diversity and like someone else mentioned Military towns and cities as well.
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Old 10-17-2015, 04:24 PM
 
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It depends on how you look at it. Miami has several metrics going for it, one being that it has the highest foreign born population in the USA.
Foreign born does not equate to diverse, especially in a place like Miami where the majority of "foreign-born" is referring to specific nationalities from the same region, who speak the same language, and are culturally similar (to each other and their American born neighbors in Miami). Most other cities on this list also have a very large (and unlike Miami, diverse) foreign-born population.

It's not diversity when Miami is 70% hispanic. It's one of the few cities at the top of the list that are not minority-majority or very close. Cleveland, Kansas City, Orlando, and a bunch of less prominent cities than Miami have a better balance of race/ethnic demographics.

There's only so far the "foreign born" diversity argument will go.

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It also has 3 important languages (English, Spanish, French) that are widely spoken by her population.
This translates as "Miami has three large groups: Latinos, English-speaking Americans, and Haitians". Not very representative of world demographics and diversity.

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On top of that, incredibly high levels of tourism in places like Miami Beach means that you'd pretty much be able to hear any European language spoken on the streets in Miami in any given day. Which is why, to visitors at least, Miami feels like one of the most international and diverse cities in the USA.
Miami does have a large market share of the international tourist market, but the largest visitor group BY FAR is that which already reflects the current demographics.

Furthermore, how much time does the average Miami resident spend in tourist areas other than the beach? Miami is a relatively poor city and most people don't have the money to do the same activities that the big spenders from Russia and South American do. That reality undercuts the argument.
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Old 10-17-2015, 05:50 PM
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Location: Miami
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Every major US city should be diverse.
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Old 10-17-2015, 08:16 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Foreign born does not equate to diverse, especially in a place like Miami where the majority of "foreign-born" is referring to specific nationalities from the same region, who speak the same language, and are culturally similar (to each other and their American born neighbors in Miami). Most other cities on this list also have a very large (and unlike Miami, diverse) foreign-born population.

It's not diversity when Miami is 70% hispanic. It's one of the few cities at the top of the list that are not minority-majority or very close. Cleveland, Kansas City, Orlando, and a bunch of less prominent cities than Miami have a better balance of race/ethnic demographics.

There's only so far the "foreign born" diversity argument will go.



This translates as "Miami has three large groups: Latinos, English-speaking Americans, and Haitians". Not very representative of world demographics and diversity.



Miami does have a large market share of the international tourist market, but the largest visitor group BY FAR is that which already reflects the current demographics.

Furthermore, how much time does the average Miami resident spend in tourist areas other than the beach? Miami is a relatively poor city and most people don't have the money to do the same activities that the big spenders from Russia and South American do. That reality undercuts the argument.
#1: bolded You are lumping all Hispanics in Miami though. Speaking the same language shouldn't be a qualifier for dismissing Miami as not being diverse. Hispanics in Miami come from Central & South America including the Caribbean having Hispanic Asians coming from Peru & Brazil, blacks from Haiti, mulattos from the Dominican Republic, mestizo/Indian backgrounds as well as white populations from Spain, Portugal , Germany,with Jews from Poland , Russia and Israel.

#2: bolded What does the fact that Miami proper is a poor city have anything to do with "most people don't have the money to do the same activities that the big spenders from Russia and South American do. That reality undercuts the argument." the price of Tea in China?
What exactly does this comment have to do with Miami's diversity? At all?
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