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Manhattan is divided into three geographical areas Downtown (Lower Manhattan), Midtown (Midtown Manhattan), and Uptown (Upper Manhattan). According to the city the northern most boundary is 14th Street where Midtown actually begins. Lower Manhattan is "Downtown". Down-town, Mid-town and Up-town. The "town" is basically all of Manhattan.
I already made it in response to everyone's definition of Manhattan's "downtown".
That's incorrect, Downtown in basically in any other city in the USA refers to central business district, whereas in NYC downtown is more of a directional phrase, when using the term downtown in NYC in the context of central business district/core, NYC' downtown would probably be anything below ~110th street
That's incorrect, Downtown in basically in any other city in the USA refers to central business district, whereas in NYC downtown is more of a directional phrase, when using the term downtown in NYC in the context of central business district/core, NYC' downtown would probably be anything below ~110th street
Yes, but if you say downtown when you're in NYC when you referring to somewhere on 40th street, you would confuse the locals. Saying the Empire State Building is Downtown is incorrect. 14th street is a good boundary, but sometimes more restrictive ones are used: Houston St, perhaps.
Yes, but if you say downtown when you're in NYC when you referring to somewhere on 40th street, you would confuse the locals. Saying the Empire State Building is Downtown is incorrect. 14th street is a good boundary, but sometimes more restrictive ones are used: Houston St, perhaps.
I get that, but people are not consistent on the context of the word "downtown" when comparing NYC to Chicago (or any other city).
Gantz may misread that quote but he's from NYC (Brooklyn, I think), so is well aware that much of Long Island is outside the city limits. The confusion probably came from "and any other downtown", since he was talking about downtowns, Gantz probably assumed he meant to say "Long Island City".
In the New York area, the usual to use Long Island to refer the parts of the island not in NYC. No clue if that's understood or well-known in the rest of the country, though most northeasterners seem to be aware of that. As to the bolded, being a native, I'd be liable to assume that others know that.
I know Long Island would be the island itself. I was only going by what tawfiqmp originally quoted from his post. It may be possible that it was a typo that he could have left out "City" but I won't make that assumption to take what he quoted out of context.
I get that, but people are not consistent on the context of the word "downtown" when comparing NYC to Chicago (or any other city).
Agree about that. Btw, the way Manhattan below 110th street has about 1 million people. The city officials refers to that region as "Manhattan Core" and they get specific zoning (maximum rather than minimum parking requirements, for example —*the parking deck high rises that Chicago has would not be allowed in that region)
Still, the Upper West Side and Upper East Side feel more residential than the rest, maybe more like a super dense version of Lincoln Park. They do have some cultural institutions, such as Lincoln Center and many museums, though. The avenues have walls of midrise buildings that seem downtown-like but the character is still rather different than further downtown.
That's incorrect, Downtown in basically in any other city in the USA refers to central business district, whereas in NYC downtown is more of a directional phrase, when using the term downtown in NYC in the context of central business district/core, NYC' downtown would probably be anything below ~110th street
Also keep in mind NYC's defining geography is not like other cities unique in sense of having more than one downtown due to having a network of large boroughs. Example, "downtown" Brooklyn is not the same defining area of "downtown" in Manhattan as they are both separate boroughs. Manhattan being more complex has a downtown, midtown and uptown.
I know that, but what would you consider the boundaries of downtown Chicago? Or general core?
I don't have the definition on hand but I'm sure it's listed somewhere. It's more of what I think the city officially defines as the boundary that I would be interested in. It's large but nothing like the size of Manhattan.
I understand everyone has an opinion, but how can an area that includes: SoHo, West Village, East Village, Meat Packing, lower east side, Bowery, etc. be ranked 3rd of 3 in this comparison?
Im talking about the CBDs.
Those arent included fella.
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