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View Poll Results: Which city has the 3rd best Downtown?
Philadelphia 65 38.69%
San Francisco 77 45.83%
None 26 15.48%
Voters: 168. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-06-2016, 11:42 AM
 
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Apparently, Philly homers will go on forever about their great, gritty downtown and city with its poverty and crime, desolate slums, and non-functional local government. Sure it's better than the 80's when the whole city looked like a third world country. If it were so great, rents wound not be so cheap. Third best downtown in the USA? What a presumptuous crock of BS. "Team Philly" needs a reality check.
While I do love SF, at least us Philly homers aren't paying an arm and a leg to live in grit. Downtown SF is likely grimier than CC. Although I would think Philly's other neighborhoods have more grit than SF's other neighborhoods.

And rents are steadily climbing here, but in a pretty manageable manner. It makes for a great mix of people from several income levels.

 
Old 04-06-2016, 05:03 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Philly is coming on.... but so is San Francisco, Seattle, and Boston.

Does Philly even have a 4 Seasons' ? Boston got two.
Yes, Philly does have a Four Seasons. Well, technically not right now. There was a Four Seasons at 18th and Benjamin Franklin Parkway that closed and was replaced by a Curio brand by Hilton called "The Logan Hotel." The reason the Four Seasons closed is because it is moving to the top of the new 1,121 FT tall Comcast Innovation and Technology Center currently under construction.

http://corporate.comcast.com/images/...TED-2.2016.pdf
 
Old 04-06-2016, 05:13 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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" The reason the Four Seasons closed is because it is moving to the top of the new 1,121 FT tall Comcast Innovation and Technology Center currently under construction.
I hope it turns out to be our hancock tower view point: http://photos.visitphilly.com/new-co...urant1-680.jpg

The city's second observation deck is open now too: http://media.philly.com/images/445*3...pdeck29z-b.JPG

I know SF has some cool statues, but Philly's William Penn statue really is amazing in my opinion:

 
Old 04-06-2016, 06:07 PM
 
Location: Villanova Pa.
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Does Philly even have a Four Seasons Hotel
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Yes, Philly does have a Four Seasons........at the top of the new 1,121 FT tall Comcast Innovation and Technology Center currently under construction.

http://corporate.comcast.com/images/...TED-2.2016.pdf

Ouch
 
Old 04-06-2016, 08:15 PM
 
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Yes, Philly does have a Four Seasons. Well, technically not right now. There was a Four Seasons at 18th and Benjamin Franklin Parkway that closed and was replaced by a Curio brand by Hilton called "The Logan Hotel." The reason the Four Seasons closed is because it is moving to the top of the new 1,121 FT tall Comcast Innovation and Technology Center currently under construction.

http://corporate.comcast.com/images/...TED-2.2016.pdf
Just to add. The former Four Seasons had been there since the 80s. Before that THE major luxury hotel in Philadelphia was The Barclay. Yes, the same Barclay, that is now a luxury condo on Rittenhouse Sq.
 
Old 04-06-2016, 09:02 PM
 
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I hope it turns out to be our hancock tower view point: http://photos.visitphilly.com/new-co...urant1-680.jpg

The city's second observation deck is open now too: http://media.philly.com/images/445*3...pdeck29z-b.JPG

I know SF has some cool statues, but Philly's William Penn statue really is amazing in my opinion:


That photo shows the bronze statue of William Penn standing in the courtyard of the Philadelphia City Hall shortly after the statue's completion in the late 1890s. It is so heavy (27-tons) that it had to be taken apart and lifted piece-by-piece (14-pieces total) to the top of City Hall. At 37-feet in height, it is the tallest statue atop any building in the world. There is an observation deck just below the statue that is about 500-feet above the sidewalk.
 
Old 04-07-2016, 12:12 AM
 
Location: So California
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Just to add. The former Four Seasons had been there since the 80s. Before that THE major luxury hotel in Philadelphia was The Barclay. Yes, the same Barclay, that is now a luxury condo on Rittenhouse Sq.
Maybe we need a comparison of hotels??
 
Old 04-07-2016, 06:13 AM
 
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Maybe we need a comparison of hotels??
One footnote about that, Phila lost a big local hotel, the Bellevue-Strafford, because Legionnaires Disease arose and was discovered in it. That hotel was sort of dying at the time but the disease killed it entirely. There was a Fairmount Hotel in the building briefly. Today it's called the Bellevue and has a Hyatt on the top floors.
 
Old 04-07-2016, 08:50 AM
 
Location: Center City
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There was also the completely laughable exaggerated remark that the "whole city(Philly) looked like a 3rd world country" at one point in time.
It seems San Franciscans should be taking care of their own problems with filth before casting aspersions elsewhere:

"It never gets better,” Barbara Wyeth of Russian Hill said. “There’s always trash. For a city with a reputation for beauty, it’s sad to see it trashed. I think people just kind of accept it as part of urban living. It doesn’t have to be, and it shouldn’t be."
S.F. faces increasing pressure to clean sidewalks as city grows - San Francisco Chronicle
 
Old 04-07-2016, 10:08 AM
 
Location: So California
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It seems San Franciscans should be taking care of their own problems with filth before casting aspersions elsewhere:

"It never gets better,” Barbara Wyeth of Russian Hill said. “There’s always trash. For a city with a reputation for beauty, it’s sad to see it trashed. I think people just kind of accept it as part of urban living. It doesn’t have to be, and it shouldn’t be."
S.F. faces increasing pressure to clean sidewalks as city grows - San Francisco Chronicle

Hopefully that movement continues, with a lot of new residents it should.

Two totally different issues though.
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