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Old 07-10-2016, 09:51 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Well, the millions of fans think otherwise, seeing as they are buying his music, contributing to his revenue.

Another big start who came from New Orleans is DJ Khaled (All I Do Is Win):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_I_Do_Is_Win
Some good New Orleans hip hop artists were featured as themselves on Treme, and Lil Wayne was not one of them
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Old 07-10-2016, 09:52 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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Sour grapes on your part.
Well he is and it's not sour grapes. You'd be better to bring up people somebody else. Lil Wayne has always been mediocre at best. Never really close to being great.
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Old 07-10-2016, 09:59 PM
 
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Some good New Orleans hip hop artists were featured as themselves on Treme, and Lil Wayne was not one of them
Lil Wayne is certainly one of the biggest stars in the Hip Hop community, full stop. Of course, there will be people like yourself who indulge in sour grapes, but his success is a fact, period.

Treme is a reality TV series depicting struggles the New Orleans community went through after the effects of Katrina. Lil Wayne, if he wasn't directly impacted by Katrina in being present in the city at that time, isn't going to be featured; he did, however, speak on effects his family members went through during that storm.

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Well he is and it's not sour grapes. You'd be better to bring up people somebody else. Lil Wayne has always been mediocre at best. Never really close to being great.
You are just saying this just to say it, obviously.
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Old 07-11-2016, 07:33 AM
 
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Downtown LA does indeed have some history, true, but it isn't really a palpable sense that is seen throughout many Southern US coastal cities. The Gulf Coast from Mobile to Galveston is easily better in that regard. Even Tampa and Houston have strong historic fabric/connection.
That's because LA is a megacity and offers sooooo much more beyond history so people don't really go there to see history. The same is true of NYC and Chicago; tons of history there but that's really not what people go there to see.

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With a recent shift of the film industry to states like Louisiana, due to tax incentives, expect star power to increase on the Gulf Coast over the years.
Not anymore: Major downturn plagues Louisiana's film, TV industry 'Hollywood South' after big changes to tax credit program | The Advocate — Baton Rouge, Louisiana

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I'd also argue that from a historic perspective, star power (especially from a musical perspective) was higher on the Gulf Coast than on the West Coast; the jazz scene was big in New Orleans back in the day, and it produced greats like Louis Armstrong.
I'm still not sure if you can say that the Gulf Coast had more entertainers/celebrities during that time although it certainly had more than its fair share.
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Old 07-11-2016, 07:36 AM
 
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Lil Wayne is a talentless hack though
That's a matter of opinion, but he's still quite notable.
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Old 07-11-2016, 05:10 PM
 
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That's because LA is a megacity and offers sooooo much more beyond history so people don't really go there to see history. The same is true of NYC and Chicago; tons of history there but that's really not what people go there to see.
Yes, but both Chicago and NYC certainly have historical fabric to the point that it is very palpable. LA does not have that. The Gulf Coast cities do a much better job in that department; even those that don't have a lot of intact historic fabric make it up with strong historic connection/significance.

Its just a downturn, these things are cyclical. It will be back and running in no time.

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I'm still not sure if you can say that the Gulf Coast had more entertainers/celebrities during that time although it certainly had more than its fair share.
Well, we will just have to agree to disagree. It wasn't until the rise of Hollywood that the West Coast started being a center of entertainment/celebrities, and even then, it was more for movie actors/actresses. The Gulf Coast was giving out greats since the 1800s.
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Old 07-11-2016, 05:22 PM
 
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Yes, but both Chicago and NYC certainly have historical fabric to the point that it is very palpable. LA does not have that. The Gulf Coast cities do a much better job in that department; even those that don't have a lot of intact historic fabric make it up with strong historic connection/significance.
LA does have that; it's just mostly in the core and its core is pretty sizable. Gulf Coast and West Coast are pretty much even here I'd say.

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Its just a downturn, these things are cyclical. It will be back and running in no time.
Even so, that doesn't necessarily mean that actors will be moving there. It hasn't really happened in Georgia.

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Well, we will just have to agree to disagree. It wasn't until the rise of Hollywood that the West Coast started being a center of entertainment/celebrities, and even then, it was more for movie actors/actresses. The Gulf Coast was giving out greats since the 1800s.
In the absence of anything quantifiable, I can't say that for sure.
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Old 07-11-2016, 05:26 PM
 
Location: Louisiana to Houston to Denver to NOVA
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Its just a downturn, these things are cyclical. It will be back and running in no time.
Not necessarily. We are in an economic slump and I don't think Edwards will restart the tax breaks soon.
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Old 07-11-2016, 06:49 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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Lil Wayne is certainly one of the biggest stars in the Hip Hop community, full stop. Of course, there will be people like yourself who indulge in sour grapes, but his success is a fact, period.

Treme is a reality TV series depicting struggles the New Orleans community went through after the effects of Katrina. Lil Wayne, if he wasn't directly impacted by Katrina in being present in the city at that time, isn't going to be featured; he did, however, speak on effects his family members went through during that storm.



You are just saying this just to say it, obviously.
lol no I'm not. He sucks. Period. Only had one good cd which was the Carter. Mixtapes were average and lyrically he's mediocre at best. Nelly and 50 cent sold lots of records too. Doesn't mean they were actually lyrically great. Neither are in the top 50 as hip hop artists. Name better people.
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Old 07-11-2016, 07:04 PM
 
Location: Louisiana to Houston to Denver to NOVA
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lol no I'm not. He sucks. Period. Only had one good cd which was the Carter. Mixtapes were average and lyrically he's mediocre at best. Nelly and 50 cent sold lots of records too. Doesn't mean they were actually lyrically great. Neither are in the top 50 as hip hop artists. Name better people.
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