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Old 05-20-2016, 08:46 AM
 
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If apartment occupancies are already high(which I'm sure it is in super expensive NYC), then yes, you need new housing, else where are new people going to move to?
I don't understand the question. Obviously people can move to existing housing; they aren't required to move into brand new housing.

New housing construction means very little in the context of housing new population. Even a city with an insane construction boom isn't building enough new housing to make a real difference with population growth, since like 95% of the housing is existing housing.
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Yes, there is a lot of overcrowding in NYC(especially with immigrants), but you still need new housing, so high residential construction is correlated with population growth.
I don't think so. At least in NYC, high residential construction isn't heavily correlated with population growth. It's correlated with zoning and economic trends. Areas where housing is allowed get tons of housing when the economy is good. Has almost nothing to do with population trends.

Keep in mind, too, that housing in urban areas is overwhelmingly either for the top 1% or subsidized housing. Neither housing type is of any use to the vast majority of the population, so obviously it's irrelevent whether Manhattan is building $10 million condos everywhere or whether the city is building subsidized housing for the poor everywhere. It won't matter for the average Joe.
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Old 05-20-2016, 09:40 AM
 
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San Antonio wants to annex 120,000 people from Bexar County: San Antonio Annexation: Land grab or prudent plan? | WOAI

It will definitely be #5 at some point. It has very weak suburbs unlike Phoenix.
San Antonio doesn't have as many suburbs as Phoenix but it still has nearly 1 million people in its suburbs. Out of S.A's 400 plus sq. miles about 90-100 square miles is mostly undeveloped. S.A's urbanized area has about 2 million within a 500 sq. mile range. Additionally, there are many independent cities within S.A's city proper.
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Old 05-20-2016, 10:10 AM
 
Location: Mexico City, formerly Columbus, Ohio
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Yet you can fit the footprint of Cincinatti, and Cleveland inside Columbus' 3 times over? If they were all expanded to the same square mileage would Columbus still be the largest city?

Yes. Columbus would still be Ohio's largest city if Cleveland and Cincinnati were at its current size, or if Columbus was the current size of Cleveland and Cincinnati. No matter how you slice it, Columbus would remain the largest. People don't seem to realize that Columbus, even at 3x the size of Cincinnati, now has greater population density, and will likely pass up Cleveland in this metric in the next decade or so. The city is densifying rapidly, with about 50% of the 10-county metro's growth going into the core city itself.
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Old 05-20-2016, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Unplugged from the matrix
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Dallas grew by 9,236 in the 2010 census. According to this estimate last year alone it grew 19,642. Glad to see it getting denser.
The estimates were the same for Dallas from 2000-2010 (thousands and thousands added during them), but the real Census told a different story. I'd wait and see for cities like Dallas that were overestimated. Others like Houston were underestimated.
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Old 05-20-2016, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles,CA & Scottsdale, AZ
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Looks like Phoenix will pass Philly for the 5th spot by the end of the year
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Old 05-20-2016, 11:42 AM
 
Location: The Mid-Cities
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The estimates were the same for Dallas from 2000-2010 (thousands and thousands added during them), but the real Census told a different story. I'd wait and see for cities like Dallas that were overestimated. Others like Houston were underestimated.
Yes your right but I think it will certainly be more than the last census. From 2000-2010 the city felt like it paled in residential projects when compared to it's suburbs. Since then, Dallas has built in every part of the city. As much as the suburbs are growing, the city seems to be matching them pretty well this decade.
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Old 05-20-2016, 12:23 PM
 
Location: Northeast states
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Will Chicago lose world class city status ? NYC is top dog though
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Old 05-20-2016, 12:30 PM
 
Location: South Beach and DT Raleigh
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A little something I made. 2020 Census Projections IF growth from 2015-2020 in absolute terms exactly mirrors 2010-2015 (which is unlikely, but a nice thought experiment)
You might want to double check your math. The first city I looked at was incorrect.

Raleigh: 403,892 (2010) + 47,174 = 451,066 (2015) + 47,174 = 498,240 (presumed 2020) for a total increase of 94,348. That said, Raleigh's population is actually accelerating and I think the city will top 500,000 in 2020.
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Old 05-20-2016, 12:53 PM
 
Location: Norfolk, VA
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Virginia is a laggard compared to Colorado:
1. Alexandria 153,511
2. Arlington (technically a county) 229,164
3. Chesapeake 235,429
4. Hampton 136,454
5. Newport News 182,385
6. Norfolk 246,393
7. Richmond 220,289
8. Roanoke 99,897 (will likely pass 100k this year)
9. Virginia Beach 452,745

Virginia's cities are also incredibly weak. All the power resides with counties. I don't know why counties like Fairfax or Henrico just don't incorporate as cities like Virginia Beach/Princess Anne County once did
Probably because it was rural when that happened. Same as with Norfolk County and Chesapeake.
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Old 05-20-2016, 01:03 PM
 
Location: South Beach and DT Raleigh
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Please not that is NOT Louisville/Jefferson County population but the (balance)

Jefferson County KY has a population close to 800,000
Nonetheless, these consolidations that swell city limits distort the statistics.
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