El Paso vs. Albuquerque which is better (state, compare, places)
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910,000? keep wishing, I've often wonder since New Mexico's existence, why it never has been a State where people move to in droves, the mountains are the only attractive parts of the State but not enough to entice tons of people to move there. Also probably more commuters from nearby New Mexico counties, than ABQ has combined with all it's "metro counties" Alamogordo's Holloman Airforce base, White Sands Missile range are all tied to Ft. Bliss meaning tons of military commuters- Las Cruces? it's no wonder the State of New Mexico was able to afford to expand I-I0- 3 lanes to El Paso. Sorry it's just the way it is.
New Mexico keeps growing. The state overall is better than what it used to be, but it's still pretty poor. Drought is worse than Texas. At least we have plenty of water. Public education is horrendous, crimes are rampant, people are not as friendly as Southerners, it doesn't have a world class public university system, it lacks in diversity (no large Black population, no Asians, etc). It's on par with Mississippi in many aspects. New Mexico might be an interesting place to visit, but to live? Hell no. Just look at how they're comparing El Paso with their largest city in the state.
The Census Bureau figures are the only ones that matter, and Albuquerque is bigger than El Paso. Albuquerque's econmy is bigger than El Paso's. It has a larger labor force and more jobs. Much higher median income, less poverty and more educated populace.
All these are facts that cannot be denied. Nobody is using Wikipedia here, the numbers are straight from official U.S. government websites.
El Paso's estimated growth has slowed down in recent years while Albuquerque's has accelerated.
But population matters very little when you have nothing to show for it.
All the people in Juarez, El Paso and Las Cruces combined don't equal the economic output of the Albuquerque-Santa Fe CSA with less than half the people. The per capita GDP is less than half for the Borderplex. Ouch!
Albuquerque has better, more happening urban neighborhoods and more amenities than El Paso. These are statements that can be backed up. You El Paso people should show us the equal to Nob Hill in El Paso, the equal to Old Town, the equal to Uptown, the equal to EDo, West Downtown, Sawmill, etc. The equal to over 2,500 residential units added in Downtown Albuquerque. The equal to over 4,000 residential units added, under construction or planned in urban neighborhoods in Albuquerque over just the last 4 years.
Where are these things for El Paso? Show us, don't just talk sh*t and think people are stupid enough to believe your lies.
New Mexico keeps growing. The state overall is better than what it used to be, but it's still pretty poor. Drought is worse than Texas. At least we have plenty of water. Public education is horrendous, crimes are rampant, people are not as friendly as Southerners, it doesn't have a world class public university system, it lacks in diversity (no large Black population, no Asians, etc). It's on par with Mississippi in many aspects. New Mexico might be an interesting place to visit, but to live? Hell no. Just look at how they're comparing El Paso with their largest city in the state.
New Mexico may be on par with Mississippi, but it's better than El Paso. It's richer, more educated and more productive. El Paso doesn't compare with Albuquerque, that's the whole point. El Paso doesn't come close to Albuquerque on measures like GDP, income, education, etc. Only when adding in the poor Native population and disadvantaged rural areas does El Paso stand a chance with comparing to Albuquerque's state, but it still loses.
Also, Texas has plenty of water?? Then why is it trying to steal New Mexico's? Texas is reviled by most of the rest of the country. Texas is neither an interesting place to visit or a great place to live, haha.
Alburquerque is a cheap place to live for people who work in Santa Fe.
Albuquerque has a way bigger economy than Santa Fe, it does just fine in attracting people on its own merits. But Santa Fe is a great neighbor to have nearby, much better than Juarez.
910,000? keep wishing, I've often wonder since New Mexico's existence, why it never has been a State where people move to in droves, the mountains are the only attractive parts of the State but not enough to entice tons of people to move there. Also probably more commuters from nearby New Mexico counties, than ABQ has combined with all it's "metro counties" Alamogordo's Holloman Airforce base, White Sands Missile range are all tied to Ft. Bliss meaning tons of military commuters- Las Cruces? it's no wonder the State of New Mexico was able to afford to expand I-I0- 3 lanes to El Paso. Sorry it's just the way it is.
You live in El Paso and you dare talk about another place's beauty?? With your ugly, barren mountains and dried up, concrete river?
The Census Bureau has the exact figures of people who commute to Bernalillo County within metro Albuquerque and from New Mexico to El Paso. The numbers are 92,000 in Albuquerque, and less than 13,000 in El Paso.
El Paso just doesn't have enough jobs or a dynamic economy to be a commuting magnet for New Mexicans. Sorry that you can't deal with the reality that El Paso just isn't that great a draw for New Mexicans.
But why do you always want to add New Mexico to try to build up El Paso's importance then trash it to diminish Albuquerque when trying to dismiss its superiority over El Paso?
New Mexico has more charm, beauty and class in its worst areas than El Paso could ever dream of having in its best areas.
New Mexico, even with its poorest and most disadvantaged areas included, is more productive, richer, smarter and overall better off than El Paso:
Sorry to rain on your parade but El Paso is growing 2 x faster than Alburquerque. Period.
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Originally Posted by LHHS75231
The 2017 population estimate for El Paso MSA is 908,000. It's not hard to find! Anyone who thinks Alburquerque is superior to El Paso has never visited either.
You're not raining on anyone's parade, fool. The focus here is on quality, urban growth and what each city has to show for its respective growth. El Paso could add hundreds of thousands of more people and still not catch up to where Albuquerque is at. Albuquerque is that far ahead in terms of amenities and offerings, economy, etc. And Albuquerque has had better urban growth than El Paso.
El Paso was growing faster than Albuquerque in overall population for most of this decade, but now even that is changing. Look at the most recent numbers from the Census Bureau for the last two years versus the first half of this decade. Albuquerque is not gonna be behind in terms of overall population growth forever. Even still, Albuquerque's MSA is about 65,000 people bigger than El Paso's MSA as of the official July 1st, 2017 estimates.
The Census Bureau figures are the only ones that matter, and Albuquerque is bigger than El Paso. Albuquerque's econmy is bigger than El Paso's. It has a larger labor force and more jobs. Much higher median income, less poverty and more educated populace.
All these are facts that cannot be denied. Nobody is using Wikipedia here, the numbers are straight from official U.S. government websites.
El Paso's estimated growth has slowed down in recent years while Albuquerque's has accelerated.
But population matters very little when you have nothing to show for it.
All the people in Juarez, El Paso and Las Cruces combined don't equal the economic output of the Albuquerque-Santa Fe CSA with less than half the people. The per capita GDP is less than half for the Borderplex. Ouch!
Albuquerque has better, more happening urban neighborhoods and more amenities than El Paso. These are statements that can be backed up. You El Paso people should show us the equal to Nob Hill in El Paso, the equal to Old Town, the equal to Uptown, the equal to EDo, West Downtown, Sawmill, etc. The equal to over 2,500 residential units added in Downtown Albuquerque. The equal to over 4,000 residential units added, under construction or planned in urban neighborhoods in Albuquerque over just the last 4 years.
Where are these things for El Paso? Show us, don't just talk sh*t and think people are stupid enough to believe your lies.
What makes ABQ's neighborhoods better and "more happening"?
Albuquerque: dynamics? economy? amenities? Nob Hill? sawmill? GDP? Hilarious! ABQ has always been and always will be under El Paso's shadow. ABQalex continues to post outdated statistics of El Paso, currently in El Paso: wage growth- a HUGE growing economy- population growth- GDP growth- High rises- Dallas, Houston Freeways and interchanges- developments everywhere. Twice in in recent years the number 1 strongest economy of all US cities and still up there. ABQ has never reached number 1. Where's ABQ? last month's ranking: the 45th worst US city to live in. No lies here.
The population figures I posted are the most recently available from July of last year from the Census Bureau. GDP is the most recently available from 2016 for metro areas and 2017 for states from the Bureau of Economic Analysis. Income, poverty and education numbers are the most recent available for 2016 from the Census Bureau's 2016 American Community Survey.
I gave the links to all of them on government sites, so who's lying here and giving bullsh*t numbers?
2017 GDP numbers for metro areas will be released next month by the BEA.
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