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The accent's of people that I have spoke with from the Panhandle of Texas and Western Kansas, Eastern Colorado, Nebraska, Eastern New Mexico is pretty similar. Similar traits, similar cultures, even similar faiths. To me, Pampa has more in common with Dodge City than it does with Tyler and especially Vicksburg. They do not call this area the South Plains for a reason. Also, I never said Texas isn't a Southern state. But for the purposes of this thread, Texas fits.
Your experience with the Panhandle is insignificant compared to linguistic studies which place the Panhandle firmly in the South. The Panhandle has nothing in common with Kansas or Nebraska or Eastern New Mexico. It is most like Western Oklahoma culturally and linguistically. I've been to the Panhandle and there is nothing Northern about it.
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Yes I'm going to argue they are Southetn because they speak with Southern accents and are culturally Southern. Those are the two key areas when classifying a region, not climate or anything like that. Your argument is weak.
I'm sorry, but your argument falls flat, no way is an arid climate in the south, just because of the way people talk. People don't think creosote and caliche when they think "The South", they think of woods and bayous!!!
I'm sorry, but your argument falls flat, no way is an arid climate in the south, just because of the way people talk. People don't think creosote and caliche when they think "The South", they think of woods and bayous!!!
Climate is a poor way to define regions. And it isn't just because of the way people talk. Culturally most of Texas is part of the South. And the South doesn't have a monolithic climate either. Your argument is weak. Woods and bayous only cover the Deep South, not the Upper or Western South. Texas also seceded from the Union in the Civil War. That alone makes it Southern as virtually a whole state.
New York is very different as far as regions go. The city of course has a very northeastern feel to it. While western NY (Buffalo/Rochester) have a more upper Midwest, Great Lakes, rust belt feel to it. Much different then NYC. Then the northern part of the state has its own distinct feel to it as well. Especially when it comes to hunting,fishing, outdoors, and sportsmen activities. I think that's why I enjoy living here because you can be emerged into a completely different culture within a few hours drive.
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Climate is a poor way to define regions. And it isn't just because of the way people talk. Culturally most of Texas is part of the South. And the South doesn't have a monolithic climate either. Your argument is weak. Woods and bayous only cover the Deep South, not the Upper or Western South. Texas also seceded from the Union in the Civil War. That alone makes it Southern as virtually a whole state.
Your experience with the Panhandle is insignificant compared to linguistic studies which place the Panhandle firmly in the South. The Panhandle has nothing in common with Kansas or Nebraska or Eastern New Mexico. It is most like Western Oklahoma culturally and linguistically. I've been to the Panhandle and there is nothing Northern about it.
How in the world is the Panhandle not like Eastern New Mexico, Western Kansas (especially) and Nebraska when it basically borders all three areas? How is Dalhart not like Raton? How is Pampa not like Dodge City? People in West Texas especially areas west of Lubbock and Amarillo would at the notion that they have nothing in common with those in Eastern New Mexico. What in Dalhart makes you think you're in a city like Tyler or even Fort Smith? You'd be very hard pressed to find many differences between Perryton, Texas and Liberal, Kansas. See the problem with you is that your argumentative and if nobody sees anything your way, you dismiss their opinions or their experience and act like yours and the reports you read are the only things that matter. Learn to agree to disagree.
Also, I NEVER said the Panhandle is Northern. Hell, Eastern New Mexico isn't Northern and I'd hardly call Western KS Northern either.
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Climate is a poor way to define regions. And it isn't just because of the way people talk. Culturally most of Texas is part of the South. And the South doesn't have a monolithic climate either. Your argument is weak. Woods and bayous only cover the Deep South, not the Upper or Western South. Texas also seceded from the Union in the Civil War. That alone makes it Southern as virtually a whole state.
Even Texans don't consider anything west of the Piney Woods to be the South. As they say, East Texas, behind the Pine Curtain, is where the South begins
Even Texans don't consider anything west of the Piney Woods to be the South. As they say, East Texas, behind the Pine Curtain, is where the South begins
Sorry but you're wrong. Southern culture and dialect cover most of Texas. You've lost. Give up. There's also the fact that the vast majority of Texans consider themselves to be Southerners.
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Sorry but you're wrong. Southern culture and dialect cover most of Texas. You've lost. Give up. There's also the fact that the vast majority of Texans consider themselves to be Southerners.
Your calling Richard Linklater, a lifelong Texan, a liar, then.
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