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View Poll Results: Richmond, VA versus Cincinnati OH
Richmond, VA 40 43.48%
Cincinnati 52 56.52%
Voters: 92. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-28-2016, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Norfolk, VA
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I know Richmond well, but not Cincy. Which city has the more impressive urban neighborhoods? I've long been interested in Cincy because it's an older boom-town with some strong urbanity.
Really depends on who you ask. For me personally they're both equal. Keep in mind that Richmond is an older city. In it's defense, a large swath of it was burned down during the Civil War so where it would be a larger, denser city, it has had to rebuild. Really no different than say, Atlanta.
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Old 09-28-2016, 03:30 PM
 
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Really depends on who you ask. For me personally they're both equal. Keep in mind that Richmond is an older city. In it's defense, a large swath of it was burned down during the Civil War so where it would be a larger, denser city, it has had to rebuild. Really no different than say, Atlanta.
During Sherman's march to the sea he ordered the burning of Atlanta which desecrated the city. On the other hand Lt. Gen. Richard S. Ewell, Richmond's military commander, was also under orders to destroy the city's tobacco, cotton, and foodstuffs before the Yankees got to them. To destroy the tobacco, Ewell had it moved to buildings that he believed could burn without setting the rest of the city on fire and asked the fire department to stand by to keep the fire from spreading. To suggest that Richmond had to be rebuilt after being razed is being intellectually dishonest.
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Old 09-28-2016, 05:05 PM
 
Location: Cincinnati (Norwood)
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However, let's be clear-Cincinnati wins on the overall. As a larger metro it just has more to offer, period. Major museums, pro sports, stronger public transit, and more choices in amenities are just some of the things Cincy has that Richmond doesn't...
Also significantly different 2015 metro GDP's:
* Cincinnati, 127.057-Billion
* Richmond, 74.109-Billion
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Old 09-28-2016, 05:18 PM
 
Location: Norfolk, VA
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During Sherman's march to the sea he ordered the burning of Atlanta which desecrated the city. On the other hand Lt. Gen. Richard S. Ewell, Richmond's military commander, was also under orders to destroy the city's tobacco, cotton, and foodstuffs before the Yankees got to them. To destroy the tobacco, Ewell had it moved to buildings that he believed could burn without setting the rest of the city on fire and asked the fire department to stand by to keep the fire from spreading. To suggest that Richmond had to be rebuilt after being razed is being intellectually dishonest.
I wasn't referring to the entire city. But I get your point.
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Old 09-28-2016, 07:55 PM
 
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But the fire did spread. It burned down the entire financial and manufacturing centers of the city. Just google "Richmond evacuation fire".
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Old 09-28-2016, 07:59 PM
 
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Richmond was also burned to the ground by the British during the American Revolution.
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Old 09-28-2016, 08:58 PM
 
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Below is an excerpt from "Richmond: The Story of a City" by Virginius Dabney.

"The torch was applied and the tobacco warehouses began to burn...buildings near the tobacco warehouses caught fire and the flames, fanned by the wind, spread to other structures. Soon there was a roaring inferno....the fires, burning through the night, shed a lurid glow upon stricken Richmond. Then, shortly before dawn, a series violent explosions in the (James) river shook the city and broke windows as far away as two miles. The Confederate warships with their loaded magazines were being blown up...Soon...on the northern edge of town, the great powder magazine there went up with a reverberating roar."

"...the heart of (Richmond's) business district had been wiped out. Nine-hundred buildings, including 230 of the best business houses, were gone...plus three bridges across the James river, the Henrico County Courthouse, the General Court Building, two railroad depots, several tobacco warehouses, all the banks, (and) the state armory..."

The evacuation and burning of Richmond together with the panic and pandemonium that seized the city the night of April 2-3, 1865 has to be one of the most dramatic chapters in American history.
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Old 09-28-2016, 11:29 PM
 
Location: California x North Carolina (soon)...
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Cincinnati metro area: 2.1 million
Richmond metro area: 1.2 million

Cincinnati City: 300,000
Richmond City: 212,000

Cincinnati is larger.




Cincinnati is not a the bottom of its tier by any means. They are very comparable on their housing stock, variety, and notoriety. Cincinnati is a cleaner, better kept city, with a large riverfront and more urban development in those areas. Richmond has more cohesive urban neighborhoods with less break in development. Cincinnati has a much larger economy and more influence on its region.



Cincinnati is more progressive. The city scored a 100 on the HRC's annual municipality index, something that Richmond has yet to do. Cincinnati has better attractions, and better shopping. I would choose Cincinnati over Richmond.
Oh, come off it. You said that Cincinnati is "almost double" the size of Richmond. By what measure? By municipal population, Cincinnati is 26% larger; by metro population, Cincinnati is 41% larger; by GDP, Cincinnati is 42% larger. You were proven wrong. It was never debated which city was larger. You made a blatantly false statement. Own up to it....

In exactly zero measures is Cincinnati even 50% larger than Richmond. Nowhere close to "double the size". Might I add, that Richmond is growing faster in every single measurable, so, increasingly, the size differential between the two cities is shrinking and will likely continue into the foreseeable future...

Everything else you said here was baseless rhetoric and is customary in your ignorant commentary about Richmond. You've never been to Richmond, certainly never to experience the city truly. You aren't slick, Shakeesha...
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Old 09-29-2016, 05:35 AM
 
Location: Cincinnati (Norwood)
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Oh, come off it. You said that Cincinnati is "almost double" the size of Richmond. By what measure? By municipal population, Cincinnati is 26% larger; by metro population, Cincinnati is 41% larger; by GDP, Cincinnati is 42% larger. You were proven wrong. It was never debated which city was larger. You made a blatantly false statement. Own up to it....

In exactly zero measures is Cincinnati even 50% larger than Richmond. Nowhere close to "double the size". Might I add, that Richmond is growing faster in every single measurable, so, increasingly, the size differential between the two cities is shrinking and will likely continue into the foreseeable future...

Everything else you said here was baseless rhetoric and is customary in your ignorant commentary about Richmond. You've never been to Richmond, certainly never to experience the city truly. You aren't slick, Shakeesha...
Wait a minute...before unleashing some inner pit bull against Shakeesha, it would behoove you to recheck your own math...

City proper:
* Cincinnati, 300,000
* Richmond, 212,000
(Cincinnati - 42% larger)

MSA:
* Cincinnati, 2.1 million
* Richmond, 1.2 million
(Cincinnati - 75% larger)

GDP:
* Cincinnati, 127 billion
* Richmond, 74.1 billion
(Cincinnati - 71% larger)

Btw...you don't even want to hear about the soon to be combined metropolitan area known as "CIN-DAY",
otherwise it will only anger you more than you already appear to be.
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Old 09-29-2016, 06:30 AM
 
Location: California x North Carolina (soon)...
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Wait a minute...before unleashing some inner pit bull against Shakeesha, it would behoove you to recheck your own math...

City proper:
* Cincinnati, 300,000
* Richmond, 212,000
(Cincinnati - 42% larger)

MSA:
* Cincinnati, 2.1 million
* Richmond, 1.2 million
(Cincinnati - 75% larger)

GDP:
* Cincinnati, 127 billion
* Richmond, 74.1 billion
(Cincinnati - 71% larger)

Btw...you don't even want to hear about the soon to be combined metropolitan area known as "CIN-DAY",
otherwise it will only anger you more than you already appear to be.
I don't know what kind of math you're doing...

Richmond's most recent city population is ~220,000. Cincinnati is ~299,000:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List..._by_population

That's a size differential of 26.21%...

-The MSA size differential is 41.08%. You do realize that to be "double the size" of Richmond, Cincinnati would have to have 1,271,334 more persons than Richmond, right? That would put Cincinnati at 2,542,668...

Half the size (50%) of Cincinnati's metro is 1,078,659. Richmond has more people than that--e.g., less than 50%. Anything less than that, is more than 50%; anything more than that, is less than 50%...

--Half the size (50%) of Cincinnati's GDP is 63,528. Anything less than that, is more than50%; anything more than that, is less than 50%. Cincinnati's GDP is 41.67% larger than Richmond's..

So before we continue debating math, understand that my point has nothing to do with which city is larger. Who debated that? Why would anyone debate that? Everybody knows Cincinnati is larger. Nobody refuted that. Nobody is upset about that....

You're defending a statement I made to someone (@Shakeesha) who has a 2-year long history of trolling on Richmond. Don't throw yourself into the middle of it...
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