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My Standard
Seattle- City
Los Angeles- City
San Francisco- City
Washington DC- City
New York- City
Chicago- City
Atlanta- City
Boston- City
Philly- City
St Louis- City
Nashville- City
San Diego- City
Houston- City
New Orleans- City
Memphis- City
Dallas - City
Minneapolis- City
Denver - City
Oklahoma City- City
Las Vegas- City
Detroit- City
Tampa- City
Charlotte- City
Orlando- City
Indianapolis- City
Columbus- City
Cleveland- City
Cincinnati- City
San Antonio- City
Austin- City
Baltimore- City
Richmond - City
Kansas City- City
Phoenix- City
Portland- City
Jacksonville- City
Birmingham- City
Little Rock- City
Chattanooga- City
Knoxville- City
Providence- City
Stamford- Maybe
Pittsburgh- City
Louisville- City
Raleigh- City
Sacramento- City
Oakland- City
Lagos (City not surrounding suburban divisions) Standard
Seattle- Suburb
Los Angeles- Suburb with city parts
San Francisco- Suburb (Same as LA)
Washington DC- Suburb (Same as LA)
New York- City
Chicago- City (close to being suburban though)
Atlanta- Suburb (Same as LA)
Boston- Suburb (Same as LA)
Philly- Suburb (Same as LA)
St Louis- Suburb
Nashville- Suburb
San Diego- Suburb
Houston- Suburb (Tall buildings might help us)
New Orleans- Suburb
Memphis- Suburb
Dallas- Suburb
Minneapolis- Suburb
Denver- Suburb Oklahoma City- Rural
Las Vegas- Suburb
Detroit- Suburb
Tampa- Suburb
Charlotte- Suburb
Orlando- Suburb
Indianapolis- Suburb
Columbus - Suburb
Cleveland- Suburb
Cincinnati- Suburb
San Antonio- Suburb
Austin- Suburb
Baltimore- Suburb
Richmond- Suburb
Kansas City- Suburb
Phoenix- Suburb
Portland- Suburb
Jacksonville- Suburb
Birmingham- Suburb
Little Rock- Suburb
Chattanooga- Suburb
Knoxville- Suburb
Providence- Suburb
Stamford- Suburb
Pittsburgh- Suburb
Louisville- Suburb
Raleigh- Suburb
Sacramento- Suburb
Oakland- Suburb
Showing how subjective this is depends on your standards IMO.
I'm surprised more people aren't saying suburb about Columbus.
Columbus annexed a massive amount of land between the 1950's and 1970's. That coupled with the fact that we have no navigable waterway and never had the same scale of industry as Cleveland or other rustbelt cities adds to the perception that Columbus is a "suburb".
I think most people who make statements like that are not familiar with the urban core at all. The Gay street corridor, German Village, University District, Merion Village, Weinland Park, Italian Village, Arena District, Harrison West, Short North, Olde Towne East etc. are some examples of neighborhoods to check out.
Columbus annexed a massive amount of land between the 1950's and 1970's. That coupled with the fact that we have no navigable waterway and never had the same scale of industry as Cleveland or other rustbelt cities adds to the perception that Columbus is a "suburb".
I think most people who make statements like that are not familiar with the urban core at all. The Gay street corridor, German Village, University District, Merion Village, Weinland Park, Italian Village, Arena District, Harrison West, Short North, Olde Towne East etc. are some examples of neighborhoods to check out.
Have you been to NYC in the Summer? It's hot and the amount of heat generating aspects to the city often make is oppressive. As someone who certainly spends Summers in really hot and humid places as the norm, I was uncomfortable there. That says a lot. For me, the biggest problem with NYC's Summers is that the persistence of good A/C isn't a given. Many places in NYC have barely adequate cooling while hot and/or humid southern cities in Florida, Texas, etc. will often freeze you like a popsicle in a few minutes.
Sunbelt built areas all have an urban core, sure, but the point is that their drop-off, or point where a classical urban build ends, arrives far quicker than in old-school cities.
Yes, because most were much smaller cities in the past and almost all development following the advent of "cars for everyone" era changed the development model.
What is more interesting to me today is watching these auto-era cities and metros begin to manage/undo/retrofit some of the damage done by auto-only development model of their heyday. Most of these cities are now becoming "cities" right before our eyes.
Yes, because most were much smaller cities in the past and almost all development following the advent of "cars for everyone" era changed the development model.
What is more interesting to me today is watching these auto-era cities and metros begin to manage/undo/retrofit some of the damage done by auto-only development model of their heyday. Most of these cities are now becoming "cities" right before our eyes.
Retrofitting is still based around cars though. Instead island box stores surrounded by parking lots, the stores are brought closer to the street and parking is decked in the rear. Still suburban. No real walkability. Few transit options.
First off, I have been to all of these cities, many times.
Honestly, out of all of those cities, OKC is the only one that truly feels like a giant suburb. Phoenix and San Jose maybe.
People calling places like LA and Dallas suburbs are crazy. I know Dallas metro is extremely sprawlly, but it has a pretty dense and built up core especially the north side. LA? Geez, that is a very dense city from one end to the other and the core of the city from downtown through koreatown to Century City is one of the most built up places in the country. It's not NYC type built up, but it's very urban and very "city".
The smaller metros like Knoxville are just small cities. Many of those have less in common with suburbs than much bigger cities do.
First off, I have been to all of these cities, many times.
Honestly, out of all of those cities, OKC is the only one that truly feels like a giant suburb. Phoenix and San Jose maybe.
People calling places like LA and Dallas suburbs are crazy. I know Dallas metro is extremely sprawlly, but it has a pretty dense and built up core especially the north side. LA? Geez, that is a very dense city from one end to the other and the core of the city from downtown through koreatown to Century City is one of the most built up places in the country. It's not NYC type built up, but it's very urban and very "city".
The smaller metros like Knoxville are just small cities. Many of those have less in common with suburbs than much bigger cities do.
The CITY of Dallas doesn't even crack 4,000 people per square mile (3,600 per square). I grew up in a suburb of almost entirely SFHs that averaged 5,000 people per square mile. You could make an argument that parts of Dallas aren't suburban, but the city is far from dense.
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