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Old 10-08-2017, 09:10 PM
 
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New York State update excluding NYC


Buffalo 29
Syracuse 15---there were 30 all of 2016
Albany 7---city saw uptick in homicides two was total for 2016
Yonkers 6
Mount Vernon 5--City saw 11 all of 2016
Monticello 4
Newburgh 3
Niagara Falls 3
Binghamton 3
Utica 3
New Rochelle 2
Poughkeepsie 2
Schenectady, NY 1
Troy, NY 1
Middletown 1
I believe that Rochester has 20(had 42 last year).
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Old 10-08-2017, 09:58 PM
 
Location: Northeast states
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NYC boroughs

Manhattan 26 compare to 26 in 2016
The Bronx 55 compare to 75 in 2016
Queens is at 35 compare to 39 in 2016
Brooklyn is at 83 compare to 111 in 2016
Staten Island 8 compare to 18 in 2016
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Old 10-08-2017, 11:40 PM
 
Location: BC Canada
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London Ontario Metro pop 515,000 is now up to 3.
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Old 10-09-2017, 06:18 AM
 
Location: North Raleigh x North Sacramento
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It's official, Richmond's 67th (30.04 rate) murder surpasses last year and becomes the deadliest year since '06 (76), but that number is probably in jeopardy, too...

Greensboro's 38th (13.24) happened this morning as well, and now is just two short of its record high of 40 in '07...

Raleigh is at 19/4.14 after a murder in Northeast Raleigh yesterday...
Second man shot in Shockoe Bottom died yesterday, Richmond now at 68/30.49...

A rash of weekend killings pushes Charlotte to 72/8.55...
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Old 10-10-2017, 01:59 PM
 
Location: North Raleigh x North Sacramento
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Highest annual murder rates of the 2010s, through 2016. All figures are averages this decade primarily used to reflect the FBI official statistics...

Cities listed are either anchor cities or principal cities of large metros:

LOWEST MURDER RATES, 2010s
1. Boise 3/1.26
2. Honolulu 17/1.7
3. Madison 6/2.34
4. San Diego 39/2.86
5. Seattle 21/3.27
6. Portland, Maine 2/3.3
7. Portland, Oregon 21/3.53
8. Austin 31/3.58
9. San Jose 36/3.6
10. Riverside 11/3.63
11. Raleigh 17/3.82
12. Virginia Beach 18/3.95
13. Arlington, Texas 16/4.3
14. Worcester 8/4.45
15. St. Paul 14/4.71
16. Albany, New York 5/4.8
17. New York City 404/4.81
18. Greenville, South Carolina 3/4.87
19. Des Moines 10/5.01
20. Colorado Springs 23/5.28
21. Anchorage 17/5.74
22. Tacoma 12/5.88
23. Grand Rapids 11/5.88
24. Wichita 23/6.0
25. Denver 39/6.02

Eleven of the 25 safest cities are in the West, that's 44%. There isn't a single one of the "major" cities in the West with a murder rate of 25 per 100k or higher, which is notable because every other region has at least two cities above that mark. In fact, besides Oakland and San Bernardino, there is no other Western City that averages even 10/100. This is remarkable; every other region has at least thirteen cities above that mark...

The West does have a handful of cities, primarily in California, with high murder rates (Richmond, Compton, etc), but these areas are suburbs of major population centers or small population areas themselves, and this same trend can be noticed in the other regions (Gary, East St. Louis, Decatur, Petersburg, Chester, Atlantic City, etc)...

HIGHEST MURDER RATES, 2010s
1. New Orleans 173/46.52
2. St. Louis 146/45.39
3. Detroit 322/45.0
4. Baltimore 249/39.86
5. Newark 98/35.23
6. Wilmington, Delaware 25/34.9
7. Birmingham 70/32.85
8. Trenton 24/28.65
9. Harrisburg 14/28.63
10. Baton Rouge 58/25.35
11. Oakland 94/23.17
12. Cleveland 87/22.17
13. Kansas City 104/22.16
14. Dayton 30/20.77
15. Richmond, Virginia 44/20.4
16. Memphis 133/20.28
17. Cincinnati 61/20.22
18. San Bernardino 43/20.22
19. Atlanta 92/19.97
20. Little Rock 37/18.79
21. Kansas City, Kansas 28/18.75
22. Hartford 23/18.73
23. Washington 119/18.51
24. Philadelphia 287/18.48
25. Buffalo 47/18.18

For all of their purported issues with violence, Chicago is not even in the Worst 25, and Baltimore has a considerable gap between it and the Worst 3...

The national murder rate is around 4.88 per 100,000, so any city more than 10/100 can rightfully be described as a city with high crime issues. Most cities, about 50.5%, have a murder rate between 2.5-10/100k, with the largest plurality (35%) coming in with rates between 5-10 per. So while there are many cities above the national rate, I wouldn't consider a city really "out of control" dangerous if it's rate doesn't reach 10, but we all now perceptions of crime doesn't always equal reality...

Then you have New Orleans, St. Louis, and Detroit, a cluster of cities so much further ahead of everyone else that the scale of violence is extreme. Baltimore is desperately trying to join that club...St. Louis' rate has increased remarkably six consecutive years; Detroit's rate has increased back-to-back years after two years of decline in '14 and '13 (though it's worst years were '11 and '12); New Orleans has had two consecutive years of increase after three straight years of decline from 2012-14. Baltimore wants to join this group so bad...

Even amongst the safest cities, the murder rate has increased. Boise, Madison, and Honolulu all had an increase in '16...
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Old 10-10-2017, 05:04 PM
 
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Highest annual murder rates of the 2010s, through 2016. All figures are averages this decade primarily used to reflect the FBI official statistics...

Cities listed are either anchor cities or principal cities of large metros:

LOWEST MURDER RATES, 2010s
1. Boise 3/1.26
2. Honolulu 17/1.7
3. Madison 6/2.34
4. San Diego 39/2.86
5. Seattle 21/3.27
6. Portland, Maine 2/3.3
7. Portland, Oregon 21/3.53
8. Austin 31/3.58
9. San Jose 36/3.6
10. Riverside 11/3.63
11. Raleigh 17/3.82
12. Virginia Beach 18/3.95
13. Arlington, Texas 16/4.3
14. Worcester 8/4.45
15. St. Paul 14/4.71
16. Albany, New York 5/4.8
17. New York City 404/4.81
18. Greenville, South Carolina 3/4.87
19. Des Moines 10/5.01
20. Colorado Springs 23/5.28
21. Anchorage 17/5.74
22. Tacoma 12/5.88
23. Grand Rapids 11/5.88
24. Wichita 23/6.0
25. Denver 39/6.02

Eleven of the 25 safest cities are in the West, that's 44%. There isn't a single one of the "major" cities in the West with a murder rate of 25 per 100k or higher, which is notable because every other region has at least two cities above that mark. In fact, besides Oakland and San Bernardino, there is no other Western City that averages even 10/100. This is remarkable; every other region has at least thirteen cities above that mark...

The West does have a handful of cities, primarily in California, with high murder rates (Richmond, Compton, etc), but these areas are suburbs of major population centers or small population areas themselves, and this same trend can be noticed in the other regions (Gary, East St. Louis, Decatur, Petersburg, Chester, Atlantic City, etc)...

HIGHEST MURDER RATES, 2010s
1. New Orleans 173/46.52
2. St. Louis 146/45.39
3. Detroit 322/45.0
4. Baltimore 249/39.86
5. Newark 98/35.23
6. Wilmington, Delaware 25/34.9
7. Birmingham 70/32.85
8. Trenton 24/28.65
9. Harrisburg 14/28.63
10. Baton Rouge 58/25.35
11. Oakland 94/23.17
12. Cleveland 87/22.17
13. Kansas City 104/22.16
14. Dayton 30/20.77
15. Richmond, Virginia 44/20.4
16. Memphis 133/20.28
17. Cincinnati 61/20.22
18. San Bernardino 43/20.22
19. Atlanta 92/19.97
20. Little Rock 37/18.79
21. Kansas City, Kansas 28/18.75
22. Hartford 23/18.73
23. Washington 119/18.51
24. Philadelphia 287/18.48
25. Buffalo 47/18.18

For all of their purported issues with violence, Chicago is not even in the Worst 25, and Baltimore has a considerable gap between it and the Worst 3...

The national murder rate is around 4.88 per 100,000, so any city more than 10/100 can rightfully be described as a city with high crime issues. Most cities, about 50.5%, have a murder rate between 2.5-10/100k, with the largest plurality (35%) coming in with rates between 5-10 per. So while there are many cities above the national rate, I wouldn't consider a city really "out of control" dangerous if it's rate doesn't reach 10, but we all now perceptions of crime doesn't always equal reality...

Then you have New Orleans, St. Louis, and Detroit, a cluster of cities so much further ahead of everyone else that the scale of violence is extreme. Baltimore is desperately trying to join that club...St. Louis' rate has increased remarkably six consecutive years; Detroit's rate has increased back-to-back years after two years of decline in '14 and '13 (though it's worst years were '11 and '12); New Orleans has had two consecutive years of increase after three straight years of decline from 2012-14. Baltimore wants to join this group so bad...

Even amongst the safest cities, the murder rate has increased. Boise, Madison, and Honolulu all had an increase in '16...
Chester,PA would be 3 on list it small city outside of Philly sky rocketing crime rate it like baby Camden
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Old 10-10-2017, 08:00 PM
 
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Highest annual murder rates of the 2010s, through 2016. All figures are averages this decade primarily used to reflect the FBI official statistics...

Cities listed are either anchor cities or principal cities of large metros:

LOWEST MURDER RATES, 2010s
1. Boise 3/1.26
2. Honolulu 17/1.7
3. Madison 6/2.34
4. San Diego 39/2.86
5. Seattle 21/3.27
6. Portland, Maine 2/3.3
7. Portland, Oregon 21/3.53
8. Austin 31/3.58
9. San Jose 36/3.6
10. Riverside 11/3.63
11. Raleigh 17/3.82
12. Virginia Beach 18/3.95
13. Arlington, Texas 16/4.3
14. Worcester 8/4.45
15. St. Paul 14/4.71
16. Albany, New York 5/4.8
17. New York City 404/4.81
18. Greenville, South Carolina 3/4.87
19. Des Moines 10/5.01
20. Colorado Springs 23/5.28
21. Anchorage 17/5.74
22. Tacoma 12/5.88
23. Grand Rapids 11/5.88
24. Wichita 23/6.0
25. Denver 39/6.02

Eleven of the 25 safest cities are in the West, that's 44%. There isn't a single one of the "major" cities in the West with a murder rate of 25 per 100k or higher, which is notable because every other region has at least two cities above that mark. In fact, besides Oakland and San Bernardino, there is no other Western City that averages even 10/100. This is remarkable; every other region has at least thirteen cities above that mark...

The West does have a handful of cities, primarily in California, with high murder rates (Richmond, Compton, etc), but these areas are suburbs of major population centers or small population areas themselves, and this same trend can be noticed in the other regions (Gary, East St. Louis, Decatur, Petersburg, Chester, Atlantic City, etc)...

HIGHEST MURDER RATES, 2010s
1. New Orleans 173/46.52
2. St. Louis 146/45.39
3. Detroit 322/45.0
4. Baltimore 249/39.86
5. Newark 98/35.23
6. Wilmington, Delaware 25/34.9
7. Birmingham 70/32.85
8. Trenton 24/28.65
9. Harrisburg 14/28.63
10. Baton Rouge 58/25.35
11. Oakland 94/23.17
12. Cleveland 87/22.17
13. Kansas City 104/22.16
14. Dayton 30/20.77
15. Richmond, Virginia 44/20.4
16. Memphis 133/20.28
17. Cincinnati 61/20.22
18. San Bernardino 43/20.22
19. Atlanta 92/19.97
20. Little Rock 37/18.79
21. Kansas City, Kansas 28/18.75
22. Hartford 23/18.73
23. Washington 119/18.51
24. Philadelphia 287/18.48
25. Buffalo 47/18.18

For all of their purported issues with violence, Chicago is not even in the Worst 25, and Baltimore has a considerable gap between it and the Worst 3...

The national murder rate is around 4.88 per 100,000, so any city more than 10/100 can rightfully be described as a city with high crime issues. Most cities, about 50.5%, have a murder rate between 2.5-10/100k, with the largest plurality (35%) coming in with rates between 5-10 per. So while there are many cities above the national rate, I wouldn't consider a city really "out of control" dangerous if it's rate doesn't reach 10, but we all now perceptions of crime doesn't always equal reality...

Then you have New Orleans, St. Louis, and Detroit, a cluster of cities so much further ahead of everyone else that the scale of violence is extreme. Baltimore is desperately trying to join that club...St. Louis' rate has increased remarkably six consecutive years; Detroit's rate has increased back-to-back years after two years of decline in '14 and '13 (though it's worst years were '11 and '12); New Orleans has had two consecutive years of increase after three straight years of decline from 2012-14. Baltimore wants to join this group so bad...

Even amongst the safest cities, the murder rate has increased. Boise, Madison, and Honolulu all had an increase in '16...
A couple of things to consider is that the national rate will be for a range of communities, whether they are as urban as you can get to very rural.

Also, quite a few of the lower rate cities are cities with sprawling city limits in relation to population in comparison to the cities in the higher list, which have had fixed city limits for decades.
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Old 10-11-2017, 12:28 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Omaha 21 homicides population: 445,000

2017 homicides - Omaha homicide victims and information - Omaha.com - Omaha World-Herald

Lincoln: 0 population: 280,000

Lincoln, Nebraska is still at zero homicides this year according to the latest update as of the end of September with a population of 280,000

http://cjis.lincoln.ne.gov/HTBIN/CGI.com

Denver: 50 homicides population: 690,000

https://www.denvergov.org/content/de...crime-map.html

Las Vegas Metropolitan Department: 182
Clark County, NV: 205

https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/...-in-las-vegas/

https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/...-in-las-vegas/
That count excludes the Las Vegas mass shooting and the two extra in LMVPD and one extra in NLV reported since then.

Los Angeles: 203 population: 4 million

http://assets.lapdonline.org/assets/pdf/cityprof.pdf

New York City 203 population: 8.5 million

http://www1.nyc.gov/assets/nypd/down...en-us-city.pdf

Salt Lake City 8 population: 190,000

http://www.slcpd.com/ass3ts/uploads/...ol-3-No-40.pdf

Baltimore 278 population: 610,000

http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2017/1...e-murder-rate/

Columbus 100 population: 860,000

http://www.dispatch.com/news/2017101...cide-this-year

North Charleston, SC 32 homicides population: 109,000

http://www.live5news.com/story/36567...-years-murders

Scotland 64 homicides population: 5.3 million

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7993466.html

Nashville: 91
Metro Nashville police department http://www.newschannel5.com/news/nas...es-2016s-total

Jackson, MS: 49 POPULATION: 170,000

http://www.clarionledger.com/story/n...ert/749210001/

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Old 10-11-2017, 10:50 PM
 
Location: Tupelo, Ms
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Highest annual murder rates of the 2010s, through 2016. All figures are averages this decade primarily used to reflect the FBI official statistics...

Cities listed are either anchor cities or principal cities of large metros:

LOWEST MURDER RATES, 2010s
1. Boise 3/1.26
2. Honolulu 17/1.7
3. Madison 6/2.34
4. San Diego 39/2.86
5. Seattle 21/3.27
6. Portland, Maine 2/3.3
7. Portland, Oregon 21/3.53
8. Austin 31/3.58
9. San Jose 36/3.6
10. Riverside 11/3.63
11. Raleigh 17/3.82
12. Virginia Beach 18/3.95
13. Arlington, Texas 16/4.3
14. Worcester 8/4.45
15. St. Paul 14/4.71
16. Albany, New York 5/4.8
17. New York City 404/4.81
18. Greenville, South Carolina 3/4.87
19. Des Moines 10/5.01
20. Colorado Springs 23/5.28
21. Anchorage 17/5.74
22. Tacoma 12/5.88
23. Grand Rapids 11/5.88
24. Wichita 23/6.0
25. Denver 39/6.02

Eleven of the 25 safest cities are in the West, that's 44%. There isn't a single one of the "major" cities in the West with a murder rate of 25 per 100k or higher, which is notable because every other region has at least two cities above that mark. In fact, besides Oakland and San Bernardino, there is no other Western City that averages even 10/100. This is remarkable; every other region has at least thirteen cities above that mark...

The West does have a handful of cities, primarily in California, with high murder rates (Richmond, Compton, etc), but these areas are suburbs of major population centers or small population areas themselves, and this same trend can be noticed in the other regions (Gary, East St. Louis, Decatur, Petersburg, Chester, Atlantic City, etc)...

HIGHEST MURDER RATES, 2010s
1. New Orleans 173/46.52
2. St. Louis 146/45.39
3. Detroit 322/45.0
4. Baltimore 249/39.86
5. Newark 98/35.23
6. Wilmington, Delaware 25/34.9
7. Birmingham 70/32.85
8. Trenton 24/28.65
9. Harrisburg 14/28.63
10. Baton Rouge 58/25.35
11. Oakland 94/23.17
12. Cleveland 87/22.17
13. Kansas City 104/22.16
14. Dayton 30/20.77
15. Richmond, Virginia 44/20.4
16. Memphis 133/20.28
17. Cincinnati 61/20.22
18. San Bernardino 43/20.22
19. Atlanta 92/19.97
20. Little Rock 37/18.79
21. Kansas City, Kansas 28/18.75
22. Hartford 23/18.73
23. Washington 119/18.51
24. Philadelphia 287/18.48
25. Buffalo 47/18.18

For all of their purported issues with violence, Chicago is not even in the Worst 25, and Baltimore has a considerable gap between it and the Worst 3...

The national murder rate is around 4.88 per 100,000, so any city more than 10/100 can rightfully be described as a city with high crime issues. Most cities, about 50.5%, have a murder rate between 2.5-10/100k, with the largest plurality (35%) coming in with rates between 5-10 per. So while there are many cities above the national rate, I wouldn't consider a city really "out of control" dangerous if it's rate doesn't reach 10, but we all now perceptions of crime doesn't always equal reality...

Then you have New Orleans, St. Louis, and Detroit, a cluster of cities so much further ahead of everyone else that the scale of violence is extreme. Baltimore is desperately trying to join that club...St. Louis' rate has increased remarkably six consecutive years; Detroit's rate has increased back-to-back years after two years of decline in '14 and '13 (though it's worst years were '11 and '12); New Orleans has had two consecutive years of increase after three straight years of decline from 2012-14. Baltimore wants to join this group so bad...

Even amongst the safest cities, the murder rate has increased. Boise, Madison, and Honolulu all had an increase in '16...
Murkside

Replace Newark with Jackson, MS ( 67/ 39.4).
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Highest annual murder rates of the 2010s, through 2016. All figures are averages this decade primarily used to reflect the FBI official statistics...

Cities listed are either anchor cities or principal cities of large metros:

LOWEST MURDER RATES, 2010s
1. Boise 3/1.26
2. Honolulu 17/1.7
3. Madison 6/2.34
4. San Diego 39/2.86
5. Seattle 21/3.27
6. Portland, Maine 2/3.3
7. Portland, Oregon 21/3.53
8. Austin 31/3.58
9. San Jose 36/3.6
10. Riverside 11/3.63
11. Raleigh 17/3.82
12. Virginia Beach 18/3.95
13. Arlington, Texas 16/4.3
14. Worcester 8/4.45
15. St. Paul 14/4.71
16. Albany, New York 5/4.8
17. New York City 404/4.81
18. Greenville, South Carolina 3/4.87
19. Des Moines 10/5.01
20. Colorado Springs 23/5.28
21. Anchorage 17/5.74
22. Tacoma 12/5.88
23. Grand Rapids 11/5.88
24. Wichita 23/6.0
25. Denver 39/6.02

Eleven of the 25 safest cities are in the West, that's 44%. There isn't a single one of the "major" cities in the West with a murder rate of 25 per 100k or higher, which is notable because every other region has at least two cities above that mark. In fact, besides Oakland and San Bernardino, there is no other Western City that averages even 10/100. This is remarkable; every other region has at least thirteen cities above that mark...

The West does have a handful of cities, primarily in California, with high murder rates (Richmond, Compton, etc), but these areas are suburbs of major population centers or small population areas themselves, and this same trend can be noticed in the other regions (Gary, East St. Louis, Decatur, Petersburg, Chester, Atlantic City, etc)...

HIGHEST MURDER RATES, 2010s
1. New Orleans 173/46.52
2. St. Louis 146/45.39
3. Detroit 322/45.0
4. Baltimore 249/39.86
5. Newark 98/35.23
6. Wilmington, Delaware 25/34.9
7. Birmingham 70/32.85
8. Trenton 24/28.65
9. Harrisburg 14/28.63
10. Baton Rouge 58/25.35
11. Oakland 94/23.17
12. Cleveland 87/22.17
13. Kansas City 104/22.16
14. Dayton 30/20.77
15. Richmond, Virginia 44/20.4
16. Memphis 133/20.28
17. Cincinnati 61/20.22
18. San Bernardino 43/20.22
19. Atlanta 92/19.97
20. Little Rock 37/18.79
21. Kansas City, Kansas 28/18.75
22. Hartford 23/18.73
23. Washington 119/18.51
24. Philadelphia 287/18.48
25. Buffalo 47/18.18

For all of their purported issues with violence, Chicago is not even in the Worst 25, and Baltimore has a considerable gap between it and the Worst 3...

The national murder rate is around 4.88 per 100,000, so any city more than 10/100 can rightfully be described as a city with high crime issues. Most cities, about 50.5%, have a murder rate between 2.5-10/100k, with the largest plurality (35%) coming in with rates between 5-10 per. So while there are many cities above the national rate, I wouldn't consider a city really "out of control" dangerous if it's rate doesn't reach 10, but we all now perceptions of crime doesn't always equal reality...

Then you have New Orleans, St. Louis, and Detroit, a cluster of cities so much further ahead of everyone else that the scale of violence is extreme. Baltimore is desperately trying to join that club...St. Louis' rate has increased remarkably six consecutive years; Detroit's rate has increased back-to-back years after two years of decline in '14 and '13 (though it's worst years were '11 and '12); New Orleans has had two consecutive years of increase after three straight years of decline from 2012-14. Baltimore wants to join this group so bad...

Even amongst the safest cities, the murder rate has increased. Boise, Madison, and Honolulu all had an increase in '16...
Regarding western municipalities, that's because they're newer – they have much wider boundaries and the counties as a whole are also vastly larger. Hence, you're more likely to get lower murder rates. It's not a mystery.

This is why the FBI prioritize MSA's, it's a great leveller. It's not perfect, you're never going to get that. Several of the bigger cities have grown beyond their MSA (NY, LA, SF, arguably Detroit).

A few of the entries are already within larger urban areas, also Chicago is worse than a good part of that listing to be fair. It's as overhyped as all hell but it isn't as low as some of those either. I mean, Cincy's on there? It's not even as bad as Columbus.

Memphis would be a lot higher as well. It's as much a narrower-the-boundary-relative-to-metro-the-higher-the-ranking list as a murder rate one.
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