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Old 02-25-2017, 01:03 PM
 
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Atlanta's urban core is very walk-able, outside of the bridge that connects downtown to midtown (which they're planning on transforming into a park, but we'll see if that goes through). Wide swidewalks (though they're not nearly as wide as other cities like New York or SF), tightly pack buildings and retailers that are close to residential homes (especially in Downtown, but not so much in buckhead), etc. Problem occurs when you leave the urban core.

https://www.google.com/maps/@33.7544...7i13312!8i6656

Midtown, Downtown, Buckhead, and neighborhoods within or surrounding those districts all have a walk score of at least 88.
Dallas is somewhat similar -- Uptown, Downtown, Knox-Henderson, Oak Lawn, Deep Ellum, etc.

DOWNTOWN
https://www.google.com/maps/@32.7804...!6m1!1e1?hl=en

UPTOWN
https://www.google.com/maps/@32.8092...!6m1!1e1?hl=en

DEEP ELLUM
https://www.google.com/maps/@32.7838...!6m1!1e1?hl=en
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Old 02-25-2017, 02:27 PM
 
Location: Downtown Los Angeles
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Lol you're joking right? Dallas and Atlanta are noticeably more walkable and urban than Phoenix.
Dallas and Atlanta are more urban in the heart of the city, but Phoenix has comparatively walkable suburbs (Mesa, Scottsdale, Tempe, etc.), whereas outside the urban core of Atlanta in particular, things are weird and almost rural with big lots, cul-de-sacs, forested lanes, and no sidewalks.

For more, you should read this: https://letsgola.wordpress.com/2013/...ean-by-suburb/
(What it says about LA pretty much applies to Phoenix)
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Old 02-25-2017, 02:45 PM
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Location: Miami
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Originally Posted by CitiesinUSA View Post
Atlanta's urban core is very walk-able, outside of the bridge that connects downtown to midtown (which they're planning on transforming into a park, but we'll see if that goes through). Wide swidewalks (though they're not nearly as wide as other cities like New York or SF), tightly pack buildings and retailers that are close to residential homes (especially in Downtown, but not so much in buckhead), etc. Problem occurs when you leave the urban core.

https://www.google.com/maps/@33.7544...7i13312!8i6656

Midtown, Downtown, Buckhead, and neighborhoods within or surrounding those districts all have a walk score of at least 88.
They all have high scores, but those neighborhoods aren't highly walkable in terms of comfort-ability.
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Old 02-25-2017, 02:48 PM
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Location: Miami
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Dallas and Atlanta are more urban in the heart of the city, but Phoenix has comparatively walkable suburbs (Mesa, Scottsdale, Tempe, etc.), whereas outside the urban core of Atlanta in particular, things are weird and almost rural with big lots, cul-de-sacs, forested lanes, and no sidewalks.

For more, you should read this: https://letsgola.wordpress.com/2013/...ean-by-suburb/
(What it says about LA pretty much applies to Phoenix)
Don't confuse Urbanity with Walkability.
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Old 02-25-2017, 03:19 PM
 
Location: South Beach and DT Raleigh
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For me these are the next 4:
Miami
Atlanta
Portland
Baltimore

Miami and Atlanta are both extremely sprawling but have plenty of walkable nodes and decent transit connectivity. And because of their enormous populations and tourist numbers they can be extremely vibrant during certain times/days.

Portland's core is on the small side but very walkable and of course transit/bike friendly. Baltimore is the one classically dense and walkable city very similar to the northeast cities on the main list. Obviously has other issues it is dealing with but the good core areas are awesome and tons of potential through much of the inner cities.
Miami's urban area sprawl is not like Atlanta's urban area sprawl. That's statistically a false equivalency.
By 2010 data, Miami's urban area is more than 2.5x denser than Atlanta's and also more dense than Boston's, DC's, Philly's, Chicago's and Seattle's. Since then, Miami's metro has grown faster and has only grown increasingly larger than Atlanta's metro. You can bet that it has only become more dense.
On top of that much of Miami's MSA and CSA total land area is undeveloped wetlands.

I'd agree with the idea that Miami is more like a mini Los Angeles with many walkable urban areas peppered among a primarily very dense metro.
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Old 02-25-2017, 03:20 PM
 
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They all have high scores, but those neighborhoods aren't highly walkable in terms of comfort-ability.
Downtown Atlanta feels far more comfortable to walk than Downtown Miami for sure.
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Old 02-25-2017, 03:36 PM
 
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Lack of barriers, quality of sidewalks, ease of crossing streets, reasonably slow traffic, interesting things along the way....lots of factors are part of walkability beyond the half-assed "walk score". Even if it rates my city highly.
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Old 02-25-2017, 04:00 PM
 
Location: Taipei
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Miami's urban area sprawl is not like Atlanta's urban area sprawl. That's statistically a false equivalency.
By 2010 data, Miami's urban area is more than 2.5x denser than Atlanta's and also more dense than Boston's, DC's, Philly's, Chicago's and Seattle's. Since then, Miami's metro has grown faster and has only grown increasingly larger than Atlanta's metro. You can bet that it has only become more dense.
On top of that much of Miami's MSA and CSA total land area is undeveloped wetlands.

I'd agree with the idea that Miami is more like a mini Los Angeles with many walkable urban areas peppered among a primarily very dense metro.
Sure. You read it into that a bit too much. I was just trying to summarize them quickly in 2 sentences, and it sounds like you would agree with the broad description were it applied to each place separately.
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Old 02-25-2017, 04:14 PM
 
Location: Aurora, CO
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Dallas and Houston above Denver? Thanks for the laugh.
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