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I'm surprised it hasn't happened yet. If they do combine, the NY-Philly metro would become the fourth largest metro in the world. Currently, NYC is sitting at eighth place.
I'm surprised it hasn't happened yet. If they do combine, the NY-Philly metro would become the fourth largest metro in the world. Currently, NYC is sitting at eighth place.
They only become something theoretically on paper. Nothing else changes. Tis why CSA's are largely useless.
I'm surprised it hasn't happened yet. If they do combine, the NY-Philly metro would become the fourth largest metro in the world. Currently, NYC is sitting at eighth place.
I'd rather the criteria for designating CSAs change first.
They only become something theoretically on paper. Nothing else changes. Tis why CSA's are largely useless.
Unlike MSAs, at least CSAs are largely consistent. There are many MSAs that are useless, theoretical on paper too. Riverside, which is nothing more than a LA suburb, is a prime example of this.
NY and Philly are close enough (city borders are only 45 miles apart) and probably have enough interchange to become a CSA. The area between the two is developed pretty good. But remember, there is a political element to these CSA/MSA definitions. It's not all about metrics. And because of this, I don't believe NY and Philly will ever be put in the same CSA.
Unlike MSAs, at least CSAs are largely consistent. There are many MSAs that are useless, theoretical on paper too. Riverside, which is nothing more than a LA suburb, is a prime example of this.
I would agree that the Inland Empire is a fake MSA. As I would also agree that the Bay Area should be one MSA and so should RDU. Outside of these and maybe three or four more examples, I don't see how the argument could be made. CSA is not more consistent than MSA. The VAST majority of CSA's are little more than outlying rural counties being clumped into the core, or a collection of MSA's who's urban areas still don't blend into each other counties.
I would agree that the Inland Empire is a fake MSA. As I would also agree that the Bay Area should be one MSA and so should RDU. Outside of these and maybe three or four more examples, I don't see how the argument could be made. CSA is not more consistent than MSA. The VAST majority of CSA's are little more than outlying rural counties being clumped into the core, or a collection of MSA's who's urban areas still don't blend into each other counties.
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I agree. I hate when CSAs and PCSAs are used on here. They are completely useless for most of the US.
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Unlike MSAs, at least CSAs are largely consistent. There are many MSAs that are useless, theoretical on paper too. Riverside, which is nothing more than a LA suburb, is a prime example of this.
NY and Philly are close enough (city borders are only 45 miles apart) and probably have enough interchange to become a CSA. The area between the two is developed pretty good. But remember, there is a political element to these CSA/MSA definitions. It's not all about metrics. And because of this, I don't believe NY and Philly will ever be put in the same CSA.
There is usually a general understanding of an area despite its MSA and CSA designation, or even something in between the two. There are so many differentiators among the MSAs and CSAs that it makes them impossible to consistently compare apples to apples across the entire country.
They usually release data around the 23rd. The states data was released on the 14th in the last drop. I would assume they'd do the same now. The latest would be around the 31st but I doubt it'd take them that long.
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