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I travel to Cleveland for work, and Ohio is more connected than you think. From the days where Amoco moved its HQ to Chicago to today where Hickory Farms just announced moving from Toledo to Chicago, Chicago has an influence on the six state Midwest region. All federal govt. field offices in Ohio report to Chicago, regional business offices report there, transportation merges there going west, and Cleveland flights connect at O'Hare. I am not saying Ohio is connected at the hip, but your protesting endlessly on this topic is a crack up; maybe your not getting it and everybody else is.
No you're just ignorant. Another person who doesn't actually live in Ohio claiming he knows everything about Ohio because federal gov jobs arbitrarily decide where to have things centrally located? Pathetic. Very dumb post.
It is important for people outside the Midwest to remember that the Chicago uber alles narrative relative to the rest of the Midwest is a fundamental cornerstone of Chicagoan's identity. That tends to make them overstate the impact of Chicago on other Midwestern cities. It is a civic ego on steroids and some of it is on display here. Be wary of any article coming out of Chicago's media that follows that narrative - they know what their readers want to read.
That article on Chicago.com about how all the smart kids in the Midwest were moving to Chicago? It was written in a year when Minneapolis was leaving Chicago in the dust in terms of population growth.
Twin Cities MSA population growth 2010-2016:
+202,177
Chicago MSA population growth 2010-2016:
+51,894
Agreed Chicagoans in general are very obnoxious. If anything, people form other Midwestern cities despise Chicago, not look up to it.
Here's a couple anecdotes that may or may not convince anyone. But when I visited or hung out with friends in Chicago during college football or basketball season, you could see bars all over the north side affiliated with various college teams: Kansas, Missouri, Michigan, Michigan State, Notre Dame, Wisconsin, Ohio State, pretty much any major Midwest university with a notable sports program, to cater to alumni from all those schools who ended up in Chicago. I've never seen anything like it in any other city.
When my aging parents who live in St. Louis need to see their medical specialists, where do they go? Chicago.
When my aging MIL who lives a short drive to Indy needed an osteopathic specialist for her specific condition, where was she referred? To a specialist in Chicago.
Walk around Fenway in Boston on a fall Saturday.
Big 10 schools are HUGE. Alumni all over the place.
Hilarious. If you're not from the Midwest, you want to believe that Chicago dominates the Midwest because it is the only Midwestern city you care about. If you are from the Midwest you know better. Simple as that. Reminds me of this girl I knew in college from Baltimore that didn't know that we had skyscrapers in the Midwest; we were watching Cooley High. About as ignorant as they came, because you know, Midwest is nothing but corn fields.
Hilarious. If you're not from the Midwest, you want to believe that Chicago dominates the Midwest because it is the only Midwestern city you care about. If you are from the Midwest you know better. Simple as that. Reminds me of this girl I knew in college from Baltimore that didn't know that we had skyscrapers in the Midwest; we were watching Cooley High. About as ignorant as they came, because you know, Midwest is nothing but corn fields.
Typical C-D.
First you conceded then take it back? Chicago Midwest win is in no way..... intended to slight or lessen NYC in this vote. *For'geta'bout'it
Agreed Chicagoans in general are very obnoxious. If anything, people form other Midwestern cities despise Chicago, not look up to it.
Cubs fans are the worst of them.
Not sure what's going on here, but I don't live in Chicago. DID, but we transferred. I don't know anyone who despises Chicago, but, clearly, you have a bias. Oh well....doesn't change that Chicago is the most dominant Midwest city...doesn't mean it dominates, but it is the most dominant. Maybe you can understand that. I also live in another Midwestern city right now, and I don't know anyone who despises Chicago. That doesn't mean some don't, but your blanket statement is pretty ridiculous. People with a bias are the most difficult to reason with.
Not sure what's going on here, but I don't live in Chicago. DID, but we transferred. I don't know anyone who despises Chicago, but, clearly, you have a bias. Oh well....doesn't change that Chicago is the most dominant Midwest city...doesn't mean it dominates, but it is the most dominant. Maybe you can understand that. I also live in another Midwestern city right now, and I don't know anyone who despises Chicago. That doesn't mean some don't, but your blanket statement is pretty ridiculous. People with a bias are the most difficult to reason with.
You're so dispassionate and unbiased!
I'm just saying that Chicago honestly does not occupy much of a place of pride in the midwest writ large. This really isn't controversial. Just call me biased though. Good deflection!
Hilarious. If you're not from the Midwest, you want to believe that Chicago dominates the Midwest because it is the only Midwestern city you care about. If you are from the Midwest you know better. Simple as that. Reminds me of this girl I knew in college from Baltimore that didn't know that we had skyscrapers in the Midwest; we were watching Cooley High. About as ignorant as they came, because you know, Midwest is nothing but corn fields.
Typical C-D.
Yep, this place is probably 85% people who have zero idea what they're talking about. The poll results and comments here clearly show that.
Not sure what's going on here, but I don't live in Chicago. DID, but we transferred. I don't know anyone who despises Chicago, but, clearly, you have a bias. Oh well....doesn't change that Chicago is the most dominant Midwest city...doesn't mean it dominates, but it is the most dominant. Maybe you can understand that. I also live in another Midwestern city right now, and I don't know anyone who despises Chicago. That doesn't mean some don't, but your blanket statement is pretty ridiculous. People with a bias are the most difficult to reason with.
Exactly, but for those extreme-types who do for political reasons..
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Agreed Chicagoans in general are very obnoxious. If anything, people form other Midwestern cities despise Chicago, not look up to it.
Cubs fans are the worst of them.
Yeah... LOL with so much of Wrigleyville are from other Midwest cities and rural transplants. Heck, so much of its Core is transplants from outside Chicagoland, Bro's Chad's Trixie's OMG so many more Midwesterners from everywhere LOL. So if they are obnoxious?? Those 4-fingers are pointing right back at ya.
Exactly, but for those extreme-types who do for political reasons..
Yeah... LOL with so much of Wrigleyville. Midwest cities and rural transplants. Heck, so much of its Core is transplants from outside Chicagoland, Bro's Chad's Trixie's OMG so many more Midwesterners from everywhere LOL. So if they are obnoxious?? These 4-fingers are pointing right back at ya.
Only one of these "sentences" had a subject and verb. I don't really know what you just said.
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