Manhattan vs Downtown Chicago (raise, state, largest, crime)

[pinytr]

Originally Posted by frimpter928

Very true. Detroit, St. Louis, Miami, Baltimore, New Orleans, Memphis, Milwaukee, DC, and Cleveland are by far more dangerous.

Are you really claiming that Miami is "far more dangerous" than Chicago?

These statistics for the city propers are from the FBI, and they say otherwise. These numbers are from January​-June of 2016, and are the latest official numbers realeased. Miami had a total violent crime rate of 446 per 100k people. Chicago had a total violent crime rate of 508 per 100k people. Chicago had a murder rate per 100k people of 11.7 compared to Miami at 6.1. That's almost double the rate, and is a staggering difference considering how large Chicago city proper is compared to Miami city proper. The robberies per 100k people were 191 for Chicago and 153 for Miami. The aggravated assaults for both cities were both at 277 per 100k people. That's hardly "far more dangerous."

If you look at the numbers in the link I posted below you will also see the crimes rates have been increasing for Chicago dramatically since 2015, while Miami's crime rates have been decreasing dramatically. These crime rates for Chicago really are unbelievable considering Chicago's population is 2.7 million compared to 437,000 for Miami. There were no statistics for DC, but I guarantee it is also comparable and is not "by far more dangerous" than Chicago like you claimed​. The other cities you mentioned​ are a different story though. If Miami got cold like it does up north the crime rates would drop even further. Crimes occur a lot less when it's cold out since people are more inactive.



https://ucr.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/uc...nuaryjune-2016



http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/...ems-so-n309856


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[DavePa]

The Magnificent Mile boasts more than 460 retailers,
New York Post list Chicago's Michigan Ave # 5 in the world. 5th Ave #3 with Rodeo Dr. at #1.

The 9 best shopping streets in the world | New York Post

https://www.smartertravel.com/2017/0...s-inside-tips/

Magnificent Mile

North Michigan Avenue, the Magnificent Mile - is one of the world’s best shopping destinations, rivaling US streets like 5th Ave. in New York and Rodeo Drive in Beverly Hills. Shopping centers like Water Tower Place and 900 N. Michigan offer hundreds of stores, along with plenty of other stores on the street.

8 Best Shopping Destinations in the USA | U.S. News Travel

Chicago #2 in Best Shopping Destinations in the USA

Chi-town's Magnificent Mile - is not to be missed. This 13-block shopping mecca boasts more than 460 stores that range in size, style and budget, making it nearly impossible for shoppers to leave without a shopping bag in tow.

Just last year - VASACE and DIOR opened new stores on Chicago's Rush St off N Michigan Ave. Along with The Frye Company, Alton Lane, Chrome Industries, Saint Alfred, BFF Bikes, Viero Bridal, Art Effect, Carrara Children and more.

Versace opens boutique in Chicago

Chicago's Oak St just off N Michigan Ave is billed Chicago's Rodeo Dr.

Oakstreet Shopping | Oak Street Chicago

Agent Provocateur, Alexis Bittar, Barney's New York, Belle Vie,Brioni, Brunello Cucinellu, Buccellati, Carolina Herrera, Christofle, David Yurman, Dimitra's Bridal, Dolce & Gabbana, ESCADA, Geneva Seal, George Greene, GIORGIO ARMANI, GRAFF, Harry Winston, HERMES Paris, I K E BEHAR, Intermix, Jimmy Choo, Kate Spade NY, LA PERLA, Loro Piana, McDowell, MAJE, Marshall Pierce & Company, MONCLER, Patek Philippe Geneve Rolex, Paul Stuart, Powellato, PRADA, Stint Laurent Paris, ST JOHN, Ted Baker London, TOD'S, Tory Burch, Grasberg & Heffner Jewels, Ultimate Bride, VERA WANG, VINCE, VMR, Wolford.

Among the Magnificent Mile 8-blocks of stores, upscale outlets

Bloomingdale's, Nordstrom, Macy's, Neiman Marcus and Saks Fifth Avenue anchor the area

For the avid fashionista,

Burberry, Bottega Veneta, Bulgari, Chanel, La Perla, Louis Vuitton, Ralph Lauren, Salvatore Ferragamo and Giorgio Armani

Fine jewelers and watch designers such as

Cartier, Rolex, David Yurman, Swarovski and Tiffany & Co. in addition to "Chicago's most original jewelry store" Lester Lampert.

MALLS ON N MICHIGAN AVE,

Shop By Level – 900 North Michigan Shops | Chicago

Department Store
Bloomingdale’s

Lower Level

Equinox Fitness Club
Mario Tricoci Salon & Day Spa
The Shop at Equinox
The Spa at Equinox
Wellness Grub

Level 1

Church’s English Shoes (On Walton Street)
Four Season Spa
Gucci
King Cafe Gourmet & Go
L’Occitane
MaxMara
Michael Kors Collection
Michael Kors Lifestyle
Montblanc
Sidney Garber (On Delaware Place)
kate spade new york

Level 2

BVLGARI
Bonobos
Club Monaco
Gucci
J. Crew
Solstice Sunglass Boutique
St. Croix
UNTUCKit

Level 3

Artspace 8
Enchanté Lingerie
J. Toor
Karen Millen
Kendra Scott
L. K. Bennett
Mezlan
Ministry
Rigby & Peller Lingerie Stylists London
Sur La Table
lululemon

Level 4

Artspace 8
Banana Repulic Women
Fooda
My Sister’s Circus
Scandia Down
The Goldsmith Ltd.

Level 5
Azeeza US
Crosell & Co.
Frankie’s Scaloppine & 5th Floor Pizzeria
Galt Toys + Galt Baby
Glasses, Ltd.
Glove Me Tender
Heidi Hess Designs
House of Kahn Estate Jewelers
Jane Weber, Ink!
Luxury Garage Sale
Mini Me
Potbelly Sandwich Works
Sabbia
Teuscher Chocolates of Switzerland
The Sports Store
space519

Level 6

Allium Restaurant & Bar
Atlas Galleries
Baisi Thai
Coulsons Music Bookstore
Forty Carrots at Bloomingdales
Kaehler Luggage
Lotton Gallery
Merchant & Rhoades
Metromart Newsstand
New Music School
Oak Tree Restaurant & Bakery
PianoForte
Sterling & Stones

The Shops at North Bridge | Directory

Aloha Poke Co. - Level 4
Bank of America - Level 1
Belle Up Boutique : Level 3
Big Bowl
Boutique - Level 3
BOSE - Level 1
BOSS HUGO BOSS - Level 1, Level 2
Brow Studio 7 - Level 2
Cafe Nordstrom - Level 4
California Pizza Kitchen
CAMPER
North Bridge District
charming Charlie - Level 3
CHICO'S - Level 2
Clark Street Sports
Dana Reed Designs
Doc B's Fresh Kitchen
Eataly
eBar - Level 1
Eddie V's Prime Seafood - Lower Level
Etienne Aigner
FOREVER 21

Habitat - Level 2
Hammermade - Level 1
Homewood Suites Hotel
iPlace
Jimmy John's - Level 4
Joe's Seafood, Prime Steak and Stone Crab
Just Salad - Level 4
Kiehl's Since 1851- Level 1
Lao Sze Chuang - Level 4
Laudi Vidni - Level 1
LE CREUSET
Les Lunges -*Level 2
Love From Chicago - Level 3
LUCKY BRAND Level 1
M.A.C Cosmetics
Marco Bello - Level 2
Mezza Grilled Wraps & Pitas - Level 4
Microsoft Store - Level 1
Moda Marjon
Monique Boutique - Level 3
Neiman Marcus Last Call Studio

Nordstrom
Level 1, Level 2, Level 3, Level 4
Nordstrom Spa - Level 3

Optica
Level 1 | (312) 595-1171
Overland - Level 1
OYSY
P.F. Chang's
PANDA EXPRESS
PAPYRUS - Level 2
Pistachio's
Potbelly Sandwich Works - Level 4
Room & Board
ROYCE' Chocolate - Level 3
sbarro - Level 4
Selected Skin Care - Level 1
Shake Shack
Soma Intimates - Level 2
STUART WEITZMAN - Level 1
Sugar Factory
Sunglass Hut - Level 2
SWAROVSKI
swatch - Level 1
The ART of SHAVING - Level 1
The Gwen - Lower Level
The Purple Pig - Level 1
True Religion
Vosges Haut-Chocolate - Level 2
White House | Black Market - Level 2
Wish Kids - Level 3
LWolford - Level 1

https://www.shopwatertower.com/en.html CHICAGO'S ORIGINAL VERTICAL MALL w/ its Glass and Chrome Elevator in the middle.

A Pea In The Pod, Maternity Redefined - Level 4
A|X Armani Exchange - Level 5
Abercrombie & Fitch - Level 6
Abercrombie - Level 6
Accent Chicago
Accent Chicago - Level 7
Adidas - Level 4
Aéropostale - Level 6
Akira - Level 4
ALDO Accessories - Level 6
ALDO Shoes - Level 6
American Eagle Outfitters - Level 6
American Girl Place- Level 1
Armoring - Level 2
Ann Taylor - Level 3
Aritzia - Level 3
The Art Of Dr. Seuss
The Art Of Dr. Seuss - Level 2
Auntie Anne's - Level 7
Aveda - Level 5
Babygap - Level 2
Banana Republic - Level 4
Bath & Body Works - Level 7
The Body Shop - Level 5j

Broadway In Chicago's Broadway Playhouse - Level 1
Build-A-Bear Workshop - Level 7
Campus Colors - Level 7
Candyality - Level 7
Chicago Sports Museum
Inside Harry Caray's 7th Inning Stretch
chico's - Level 3
Chocolate Moonshine Company - Level 2
Claire's - Level 4
Clarks - Level 7
Coach - Level 3
Cusp - Level 2
DAVIDsTEA - Level 7
ECCO - Level 7
Eileen Fisher - Level 2
Express - Level 4
Finish Line - Level 7
Foodease - Mezzanine
Foodlife - Mezzanine
Forever 21 - Level 5
Fossil - Level 6
Francesca's - Level 5
Free People - Level 3
Freshii - Level 1
Gamers World - Level 4
Gapkids - Level 2
Garrett Popcorn Shops - Level 7
Harry Caray's 7th Inning Stretch - Level 7
Henri Bender - Level 2
Hollister Co. - Level 6
J.Jill - Level 3
JOHNSTON & MURPHY - Level 4
Kovet Boutique - Level 3
Lacoste - Level 3
The LEGO Store - Level 2
Lids - Mezzanine
M Burger - Mezzanine

macy's - Level 1
Mity Nice Grill - Mezzanine
NYS Collection - Level 2
Oakley - Level 6
PANDORA - Level 7
PAPYRUS - Level 5
Pepper Palace - Level 7
Pink - Level 4
Red Mango - Level 7

The Ritz-Carlton - Level 1
Rogers & Hollands Jewelers - Level 5
Sacred Grounds Bakery & Café - Mezzanine
See Eyewear - Level 2
SEPHORA - Level 5
SoHo - Level 3
Soma By Chico's - Level 3
Starbucks - Level 2
sunglass hut - Level 1
sunglass hut - Level 5
Swarovski - Level 5
T-Mobile - Level 6
TEAVANA - Level 3
Tourneau - Level 3
TUMI - Level 3
Vera Bradley - Level 5
Victoria's Secret - Level 5
Vine Vera - Level 7
THE WALKING COMPANY - Level 7
Wao Boa - Level 1
Water Tower Clock & Watch - Level 6
White House Black Market - Level 3

[DC's Finest]

Flagships are on 5th Avenue. It's a huge difference.

[Enean]

Originally Posted by DC's Finest

Flagships are on 5th Avenue. It's a huge difference.

Please explain the vast differences.

[BajanYankee]

Originally Posted by DC's Finest

New York shopping is on another level. It has the flagship store for every retailer in the country. Fashion starts in New York and trickles to the rest of the US.

Fashion/shopping/apparel are different things, no?

[DavePa]

Originally Posted by DC's Finest

Flagships are on 5th Avenue. It's a huge difference.

Do you know Flagship stores are not just a first but retailers call their premier stores generally of a certain size ALL THEIR FLAGSHIP STORES?

Again Chicago offers more then merely small potatoes. It LARGE Retailers on N Michigan Ave call them Flagship stores

[cpomp]

Originally Posted by DavePa

Do you know Flagship stores are not just a first but retailers call their premier stores generally of a certain size ALL THEIR FLAGSHIP STORES?

Again Chicago offers more then merely small potatoes. It LARGE Retailers on N Michigan Ave call them Flagship stores

Most main/ high end shopping districts offer flagships, Chicago being one of them. As a poster above pointed out shopping, apparel, and fashion are three different things. Chicago has the shopping, the fashion and apparel is almost exclusive to NYC and LA (regarding the USA)

[DavePa]

Originally Posted by DC's Finest

Flagships are on 5th Avenue. It's a huge difference.

Do you know Flagship stores are not just a first but retailers call their premier stores generally of a certain size ALL THEIR FLAGSHIP STORES?
** Again Chicago offers more then merely small potatoes. It LARGE Retailers on N Michigan Ave call them Flagship stores

Saks and Tiffany's Chicago here are buildings new for them built. Saks was originally across the street till this new one opened. Look older both but are not.
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8957...7i13312!8i6656

Burberry's here tore down their older elegant building to build this a couple years ago.
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8933...7i13312!8i6656

Neiman Markus built in the 2000s
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8958...7i13312!8i6656

Macy's and TopMan
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8973...7i13312!8i6656

Bloomingdales with Gucci
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8994...7i13312!8i6656

A four-story, 43,000-square-foot Starbucks Reserve and Roastery billed as the world’s largest Starbucks will replace the flagship Crate & Barrel store at 646 N. Michigan Ave.
World's largest Starbucks to replace Crate & Barrel on Mag Mile | Chicago Sun-Times

Originally Posted by cpomp

Most main/ high end shopping districts offer flagships, Chicago being one of them. As a poster above pointed out shopping, apparel, and fashion are three different things. Chicago has the shopping, the fashion and apparel is almost exclusive to NYC and LA (regarding the USA)

Again point is to show Not small potatoes in 3 malls and all the boutique's and Flagship large retailers. You need to make waves in the pond and show not only one Huge fish but a few US cities CAN SWIM TOO.
Some cities cannot.

Just last year - VASACE and DIOR opened new stores on Chicago's Rush St off N Michigan Ave. Along with The Frye Company, Alton Lane, Chrome Industries, Saint Alfred, BFF Bikes, Viero Bridal, Art Effect, Carrara Children and more.
Versace opens boutique in Chicago

Chicago's Oak St just off N Michigan Ave is billed Chicago's Rodeo Dr.
Oakstreet Shopping | Oak Street Chicago

Agent Provocateur, Alexis Bittar, Barney's New York, Belle Vie,Brioni, Brunello Cucinellu, Buccellati, Carolina Herrera, Christofle, David Yurman, Dimitra's Bridal, Dolce & Gabbana, ESCADA, Geneva Seal, George Greene, GIORGIO ARMANI, GRAFF, Harry Winston, HERMES Paris, I K E BEHAR, Intermix, Jimmy Choo, Kate Spade NY, LA PERLA, Loro Piana, McDowell, MAJE, Marshall Pierce & Company, MONCLER, Patek Philippe Geneve Rolex, Paul Stuart, Powellato, PRADA, Stint Laurent Paris, ST JOHN, Ted Baker London, TOD'S, Tory Burch, Grasberg & Heffner Jewels, Ultimate Bride, VERA WANG, VINCE, VMR, Wolford.

Among the Magnificent Mile 8-blocks of stores, upscale outlets or 15-block area.
Bloomingdale's, Nordstrom, Macy's, Neiman Marcus and Saks Fifth Avenue anchor the area

For the fashionista,
Burberry, Bottega Veneta, Bulgari, Chanel, La Perla, Louis Vuitton, Ralph Lauren, Salvatore Ferragamo and Giorgio Armani

Fine jewelers and watch designers such as
Cartier, Rolex, David Yurman, Swarovski and Tiffany & Co. in addition to "Chicago's most original jewelry store" Lester Lampert.
New to the Mile- The Magnificent Mile Association

The Magnificent Mile Association welcomes the following businesses to The Magnificent Mile® district!
~Recently Opened ~

*SafeHouse, 60 E. Ontario Street (Opened March 1, 2017)
Mom’s Place, 650 N. Dearborn (Opened Winter 2017)
Texican, 869 N. Larrabee Street (Opened Winter 2017)
Yolk, 340 N. State Street (Opened Winter 2017)
Lush, 744 N. Michigan Avenue (Opened February 16, 2017)
Bunny Slope in the ACME Hotel, 15 E. Ohio Street (Opened February 2017)
EscapeHouse, 54 E. Ontario Street (Opened November 2016)
Bodega, 15. E. Ohio Street (Opened November 2016)
Baptist & Bottle, 101 E. Erie Street Floor 20 (Opened November 2016)
Warby Parker, 1123 N. State Street (Opened Fall 2016)
Bar Lupo, 2017 W. Huron Street (Opened November 2016)
Sugar Factory, 55 E. Grand Avenue (Opened Novemer 1, 2016)
True Food Kitchen, 1 W. Erie Street (Opened November 1, 2016)
Winter's Jazz Club, 411 E. Illinois Street (Opened Fall 2016)
The Flamingo Rum Club, 601 N. Wells Street (Opened Fall 2016)
Hutch, 416 W Ontario Street (Opened Fall 2016)
Griddle 24, 334 W. Chicago Avenue (Opened October 2016)
Ministry, 900 N. Michigan Avenue 3rd Floor (Opened Fall 2016)
Il tavolino, 101 E. Erie Street (Opened October 2016)
Rebecca Minkoff, 106 E. Oak Street (Opened October 2016)
T-Mobile, 700 N. Michigan Avenue (Opening September 2016)
Cerveceria at Latinicity, 108 N. State Street (Opened Summer 2016)
Sweetgreen, 623 N. State Street (Opened Summer 2016)
Disco, 111 W. Hubbard Street (Opened Summer 2016)
Revival Food Hall, 125 S. Clark Street (Opened Summer 2016)
Sephora, 605 N. Michigan Avenue (Opened Summer 2016)
Nando's Peri Peri, 227 E. Ontario Street (Opened Summer 2016)
AceBounce, 230 N. Clark Street (Opened June 2016)
Nonnina ,340 N. Clark Street (Opened June 2016)
​Ēma, 74 W. Illinois Street (Opened June 2016)
LondonHouse Hotel, 85 E. Upper Wacker Drive (Opened June 2016)
Tiny Tavern (Opened Summer 2016)
Little Beet Table, 845 N. State Street (Opened Summer 2016)
GT Prime, 707 N. Wells Street (Opened Summer 2016)
La Mez Agave Bar, 108 W. Kinzie Street (Opened Summer 2016)
La Storia, 1154 N. Dearborn Street (Opened Summer 2016)
Ironside Bar & Galley, 546 N. Wells Street (Opened Spring 2016)
Streeterville Social in the Loews Chicago Hotel, 455 N Park Drive, (Now Open)
Seoul Taco, 738 N. Clark Street (Opened May 2016)
Columbus Tap in the Fairmont Chicago, 200 N. Columbus Drive (Opened Spring 2016)
Tip Top Inn, A Rosebud Restaurant, 1204 N. State Street (Opened May 2016)
Stan's Donuts & Coffee, 535 N. Michigan Avenue (Opened May 21)
Beacon Tavern, 405 N. Wabash Avenue (Now Open)
Raised at Renaissance Chicago Downtown Hotel, 1 W. Upper Wacker Drive (Now Open)
Ocean Cut, 20 W. Kinzie Street (Now Open)
Broken English Taco Pub, 75 E. Lake Street (Opened May 2016)
Original Rainbow at Navy Pier (Opened May 7)
Versace, 933 N. Rush Street (Opened April 2016)
Joy District, 112 W. Hubbard Srreet (Opened April 14)
Columbus Tap (Opened April 8)

Coming Soon

American Writers Museum, 180 N. Michigan Avenue (Opening May 16, 2017)
Country Q, 432 W. Ontario Street, (Opening 2017 TBD)
Tesla, 900 N. Michigan Avenue (Opening Summer 2017)
Lula Cafe in the MCA, 220 E. Chicago Avenue (Opening 2017)
Ulta, 430 N. Michigan Avenue (Opening Summer 2017)
Cupitol Coffee & Eatery, location TBD (Opening Spring 2017)
Benihana, 875 N. Michgian Avenue (Opening Fall 2017)
East Side Taverna, 201 E. Walton Place (Opening TBD)
Hotel EMC2, 228 E. Ontario Street (Opening March 2017)
Steak 48, 615 N. Wabash Avenue (Opening TBD)
Centennial, 733 N. LaSalle Street (Opening TBD)
Versace/Dior, Walton/Rush Street (Open)
Chase Bank, 423 Ohio Street (Opening Spring 2017)
Viceroy Hotel, 1118 N. State Street (Opening September 2017)
Nobu Hotel, 854 W. Randolph Street (Opening 2017 TBD)

[moneymkt]

Originally Posted by WildWestDude

Chicago gets the attention for its crime lately but there are many cities that are worse so it's not quite crime capital as popular belief leads us to think

That won't concern me because my time will be in the tourist areas

[DC's Finest]

Originally Posted by Enean

Please explain the vast differences.

Flagship stores typically showcase and feature the brands top items. Sometimes these items can't be purchased right away in other stores. They also hold more volume and are usually more impressive.