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View Poll Results: More famous for hip hop?
Atlanta 61 22.18%
New York City 195 70.91%
Equal 19 6.91%
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Old 06-22-2017, 12:25 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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I have to kinda steer the conversation because you're all over the place.
LOL. Okay. Let's take a look at the OP again.

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To be clear, I am not asking the following:

-Which city produces the most hip hop today
-Which city has hip hop as a more significant part of its culture
-Which city has hip hop as a more significant part of its identity ("NYC is known for many things while Atlanta is known more for hip hop")
-Which city has the hottest artists

I'm asking which city is more famous for hip hop around the world. I figured it was an interesting question considering that the NY scene is past its prime while the same doesn't appear to be true for Atlanta's.
You've basically attempted to turn the thread into everything I was NOT asking.
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Old 06-22-2017, 12:26 PM
 
Location: BMORE!
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When I think of the trap sound that everyone is following today, I think of Gucci Mane and nobody else. There were plenty of other acts who glorified drug distribution (TI tends to claim he pioneered the term) but Gucci/Mike Will were the first to marry it with a very specific sound/beat that people were able to associate with trap music in general and still do to this day.

Gucci's sound to me, is the Atlanta sound... and it all started with Trap House then songs like Bricks. By the time 'Bricks' and 'I Don't Love Her' came out, the sound was solidly in place and the rest (today's mainstream sound) is history. When I hear all of the chart topping songs of today (Bad and Boujee, Mask off, Panda) I hear Gucci, always have quite honestly.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIS8twlzuMw
This is classic Trap Music

Some posters seem to be categorize any and everything that comes out of Atlanta as "Trap."
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Old 06-22-2017, 12:32 PM
 
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That's because Metro (who hails from St. Louis) makes most of their beats.
Metro, Zaytoven, London on the Track, Southside etc. are in many ways building upon Mike Will's initial blueprint. What he did with Gucci was groundbreaking, and continues to be copied across the board today.

I can only imagine how Gucci felt in prison listening to his sound copied time and time again. It's no surprise that he instantly popped up at the top upon his release. Gucci is the truest godfather of today's mainstream trap sound.
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Old 06-22-2017, 12:34 PM
 
Location: Queens, N.Y.
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NYC doesn't have that influenced today. Also, the beats that came out of NYC we're pedestrian compared to the beats that are coming out today. Atlanta, and the south in general makes better beats. Always have. That's probably why every region is using "trap beats.".

Beat selection was always something that Nas caught flack for.
That's strictly your opinion but when you talk about top Hip Hop producers of all-time you will hear Pete Rock, Just Blaze, Large Pro and Premier mentioned no doubt. And if you bring up the fact that Premier is from Texas make sure you also mention that Metro Boomin is from St. Louis and Zaytoven is from The Bay...
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Old 06-22-2017, 12:39 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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That's strictly your opinion but when you talk about top Hip Hop producers of all-time you will hear Pete Rock, Just Blaze, Large Pro and Premier mentioned no doubt. And if you bring up the fact that Premier is from Texas make sure you also mention that Metro Boomin is from St. Louis and Zaytoven is from The Bay...
So I guess if we were to chisel a Mt. Rushmore of Hip Hop, which would include the most famous/greatest hip hop artists of all time, who from Atlanta would be on it?
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Old 06-22-2017, 12:40 PM
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Location: Miami
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We were talking about sonic distinctiveness. That means the beat and the elements of the typical trap beat--drum roll, heavy 808, hi hat--do not have their origins in Atlanta. Project Pat had been rapping over that kind of beat long before anyone from Atlanta.

So in other words, a trap beat is not an "Atlanta beat" or the "Atlanta sound" since there were other producers in other Southern cities that played a large part in creating what most people think of today as a "southern sounding" beat.
Atlanta has Memphis to thank for that.
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Old 06-22-2017, 12:42 PM
 
Location: BMORE!
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LOL. Okay. Let's take a look at the OP again.



You've basically attempted to turn the thread into everything I was NOT asking.
YOU'RE turning this into everything else. from Supreme (lol), to booty shake music, 3-6 Mafia, Baltimore and Cross Colours... pick a topic and stick with it.

Atlanta hip-hop is more popular TODAY, and it's not close in any way, shape, or form. That's the discussion.
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Old 06-22-2017, 12:43 PM
 
Location: BMORE!
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So I guess if we were to chisel a Mt. Rushmore of Hip Hop, which would include the most famous/greatest hip hop artists of all time, who from Atlanta would be on it?
Andre 3000
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Old 06-22-2017, 12:45 PM
 
Location: Baltimore, MD
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So I guess if we were to chisel a Mt. Rushmore of Hip Hop, which would include the most famous/greatest hip hop artists of all time, who from Atlanta would be on it?
OutKast, Ludacris, T.I. Usher, if you want to consider him hip hop (which I don't). Everyone else is in a lower tier(s), with Young Jeezy, Future and Gucci Mane leading those.
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Old 06-22-2017, 12:50 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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YOU'RE turning this into everything else. from Supreme (lol), to booty shake music, 3-6 Mafia, Baltimore and Cross Colours... pick a topic and stick with it.
I believe it was you who mentioned NYC style fashion being dated, etc. I merely countered those assertions.

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Atlanta hip-hop is more popular TODAY, and it's not close in any way, shape, or form. That's the discussion.
That's NOT the discussion and I should know because I started the thread.

I asked which city's hip hop scene is more famous.

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adjective
1.
having a widespread reputation, usually of a favorable nature; renowned; celebrated
You keep going back to which is more relevant today, but that is not the same as which is more famous overall. Andre Ward is more relevant on the boxing scene today than Mike Tyson, but that doesn't mean more people know who he is, especially outside of boxing aficionado.
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