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View Poll Results: More famous for hip hop?
Atlanta 61 22.26%
New York City 194 70.80%
Equal 19 6.93%
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Old 06-22-2017, 01:57 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Well yeah. I've said this before on here. No hate on Atlanta but it didn't really have a sound to it's own until this trap sound. The booty shaking sound is Miami.
I don't agree with that. Ghost Town DJs, KP & Enyvi, Kilo Ali, Corina, etc. was its own distinctive style of booty shake that was slower and less raucous than what was coming out of Miami during the late 80s/early 90s.
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Old 06-22-2017, 02:13 PM
 
Location: Queens, N.Y.
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What?!?! Blasphemy...

You're giving him top 10 even though he hasn't released a solo album. What qualifies him in the TOP 10?
Strictly from a MC perspective you can put him in your Top 10 along with others like Black Thought, Jadakiss, Big Pun and Pharoahe Monch in my opinion.
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Old 06-22-2017, 02:17 PM
 
Location: Queens, N.Y.
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I gotta stop you there. As I've stated before, ATL had a much more distinct sound with the Dungeon Family, which is more laid back funk. Then Lil John in the early 2000s; Lil john's beats were so popular because as frequently as it was heard, they were mostly used by Atlanta artist. Then you had Jazzy Pha, which was similar to the Dungeon Family. Actually back then, Atlanta had a very distinct sound; today, however, everywhere else is adopting Atlanta's sound, so it doesn't seem as unique anymore. It goes to show how influential Atlanta has become.
Nobody viewed the sound coming out of the Dungeon Family as "The Atlanta Sound", it was a style of soulful Hip Hop that artists from all over the country were using at the time. An argument can be made that they adopted the sound from artists like Pete Rock & CL Smooth as well as a Tribe Called Quest
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Old 06-22-2017, 02:18 PM
 
Location: Queens, N.Y.
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I think we need to put aside the why he is famous. The same could be said for Tupac. In terms of global recognition, they are 2 of the 3 most famous rap artists to ever live.
I agree
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Old 06-22-2017, 02:21 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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No way 3000 could be on a Mt. Rushmore over Nas though. Many hip hop heads consider Illmatic the best hip hop album ever made.

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The album is widely regarded as the greatest hip hop album of all time, appearing on numerous best album lists by critics and publications.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illmatic

How can a guy without a single solo album rank ahead of a guy who has made what some consider the greatest album ever?
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Old 06-22-2017, 02:24 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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I don't agree with that. Ghost Town DJs, KP & Enyvi, Kilo Ali, Corina, etc. was its own distinctive style of booty shake that was slower and less raucous than what was coming out of Miami during the late 80s/early 90s.
Ghosttown DJ's did sound like something from Miami back in 96. I can see KP and Envi but that was just the sound evolving. It still had its roots Miami influence.
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Old 06-22-2017, 02:30 PM
 
Location: Queens, N.Y.
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Well yeah. I've said this before on here. No hate on Atlanta but it didn't really have a sound to it's own until this trap sound. The booty shaking sound is Miami. They tried to bounce at one point, which was New Orleans. They tried the crunk/get buck sound, which was Memphis. All of these styles started in the late 80s in these respective cities. Atlanta borrowed from the cities in ways and capitalized this. In the 90s, Atlanta and Miami made similar music mostly.
I agree with this statement and let me add that the electro-hip hop movement out of NYC in the early 80's ("Planet Rock", "Jam On It") laid the foundation for Miami Bass and early West Coast (ex - JJ Fad Supersonic) and "Triggerman" by the Showboys laid the foundation for Bounce Music which came out of New Orleans. Also take a listen to RUN DMC's "Together Forever" (1984) and you will hear the foundation for that Texas slowed-down sound, even Bun B's signature double-echo word style came straight from DMC. NYC not only laid birthed Hip Hop but also laid down multiple sound foundations that were picked up by other regions but respect to them because they flipped it and created their own originality out of it
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Old 06-22-2017, 02:31 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Old 06-22-2017, 02:31 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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I gotta stop you there. As I've stated before, ATL had a much more distinct sound with the Dungeon Family, which is more laid back funk. Then Lil John in the early 2000s; Lil john's beats were so popular because as frequently as it was heard, they were mostly used by Atlanta artist. Then you had Jazzy Pha, which was similar to the Dungeon Family. Actually back then, Atlanta had a very distinct sound; today, however, everywhere else is adopting Atlanta's sound, so it doesn't seem as unique anymore. It goes to show how influential Atlanta has become.
laid back funk was definitely not distinct with Dungeon Family. Lil jon in the early 2000s was crunk and we know where crunk came from. That's what I'm saying.

Memphis started crunk
New Orleans was bounce
Houston was screw
Miami was booty shaking

Throughout the late 80s and 90s, these were the sounds that dominated and fused with regions. Atlanta's sound was not really known. We just know they had music from there and it was popular. We knew about DJ Taz and Raheem. We knew about Kilo Ali. We knew about So so def. But much of that could have been misconstrued as Miami or even Orlando. People thought the 69 boyz was from either Miami or Atlanta and it wasn't until the year after that we found out that they were from Orlando.
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Old 06-22-2017, 02:32 PM
 
Location: BMORE!
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Nobody viewed the sound coming out of the Dungeon Family as "The Atlanta Sound", it was a style of soulful Hip Hop that artists from all over the country were using at the time. An argument can be made that they adopted the sound from artists like Pete Rock & CL Smooth as well as a Tribe Called Quest
Nobody as in NY?

You can hear a track, and know that it was from Atlanta artist. Well, some of us can.
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