U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > General U.S. > City vs. City
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
View Poll Results: More famous for hip hop?
Atlanta 61 22.26%
New York City 194 70.80%
Equal 19 6.93%
Voters: 274. You may not vote on this poll

Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 06-27-2017, 03:35 PM
 
Location: Southeast TX
868 posts, read 1,357,887 times
Reputation: 886

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by SenseSoCommon View Post
Maybe it will maybe it wont but either way Atlanta seems like it will always be relevant which is the point people have said. While all cities have had time in the light,ATL was right there.

If im not mistaken I KNOW i hear TLC being refered to ALL the time as one of the to selling Hip hop groups ever by different sources over the years

They looked and sound hip hop to me

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=...98685534867049
I can see how you would include them in Hip Hop, but there are more in the R&B genre IMO. I dont recall ever hearing them as Hip Hop group though... Some of the songs they had but for the most part they were pop and R&B..
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 06-27-2017, 03:39 PM
 
Location: NYC, VA, JP
412 posts, read 612,387 times
Reputation: 334
Quote:
Originally Posted by llmrkc07 View Post
CURRENTLY the West Coast has it now IMO, they are making good music like Knxwledge, Kid Ink, Anderson.Pakk, NxWorries, Ty Dollar Sign (i like him, as a producer more than a rapper), Kendrick Lamar, YG, Wiz. Ill take these rappers over the ones from the ATL any-day..Even bringing up old school from the West Coast like NWA (Ice Cube, Easy E, Dr. Dre), Snoop, Ice-T, Xzibit, Nate Dogg etcc. these artist have made lasting impressions in the industry. I dont want you to think I'm dissing ATL, but I just cant take most of the rappers there seriously, when most of them cant even rap, with the exception from the ones I mentioned.
My boy Knxwledge is from Philly, but yes, he's the epitome of what hip-hop is nowadays. He's insane, direct descendant of J Dilla himself. SZA, Earl Sweatshirt, Murs, Hopsin (he's honestly kinda corny, but he has bars/content), and the Black Hippy squad runs circles around ATL's whole shortbus camp.

LA will always be in the conversation of hip-hop, simply because they have Stones Throw and TDE. Stones Throw in itself is legendary for the culture.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-27-2017, 03:44 PM
 
Location: BMORE!
7,249 posts, read 5,548,685 times
Reputation: 3256
Quote:
Originally Posted by llmrkc07 View Post
I can see how you would include them in Hip Hop, but there are more in the R&B genre IMO. I dont recall ever hearing them as Hip Hop group though... Some of the songs they had but for the most part they were pop and R&B..
They had a rapper in the group, and had a New Jack sound in the early 90s.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-27-2017, 03:49 PM
 
178 posts, read 70,426 times
Reputation: 154
Quote:
Originally Posted by MurphyKing54 View Post
Your wording and phrasing is very wonky, I have trouble understanding.

People don't really make Rock music anymore, you're missing my point. Musicianship overall is very scarce nowadays in music, this is including hip-hop now, since we're talking music that is mainstream. It was the musicianship, craft, and creativity that gained popularity. The stuff coming out of Atlanta nowadays? It's the opposite. I'm not gonna respect any rapper, who can't even rap.....Then use the fact that they're from Atlanta as an excuse to not rap properly, and claim it as a "style". Even ODB had to actually rap, and he was all over the place.

And oh heaven's no, how dare you not like Atlanta style, you're just jealous that lyricism and creativity isn't popular anymore! That's out-dated! Just let Atlanta produce trash in peace!

The same fate Rock faced, is what hip-hop may face. Oversaturation, brand issues, corruption, and a disinterest due to associating culture advancement to mainstream success/acceptance. Atlanta is at the forefront of that movement. Corporate. Not the hip-hop movement. Get that very clear.

Now what I'm seeing is, a bunch of so-called "hip-hop" artists in Atlanta, doing all this pop/mainstream pandering stuff. In order to get popular and famous, by stripping fundamental elements of hip-hop, and claiming it to be an advancement in the culture and that they're doing us a favor or a service. Which is a joke. But I wouldn't mind rounding me up a few broads in Atlanta if that's what helps them sleep at night lol.

Atlanta was good until 2005, then they did away with hip-hop and strayed on a different path. They had the nice little girl groups in the 90's, sure, but that's R&B. Atlanta did not advance hip-hop to get in, they sabotaged it and sold out. That's some reality for you.
Hmm. Consdering I was answering someone else who clearly understood,,I dont see why you are responding if you dont understand me

It was very clear what I wrote.

I said when I brought it up that Rock is not so much anymore as is it is now what we call Pop.
Meaning its still around but its changed because its now mainstream.
You dont like that and that's fine but music evolves .This is not the first time that Hip hop has changed fundamentally. It wont be the last either.
Atlanta is the bridge is the way I see it

Personally I dont like most of the new stuff but I was never deep into most of the old hip hop when it first came out .

My thing was New jack Swing

Atlanta SAVED hip hop according to most people not named you.Sorry if thats too "wonky" for you
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-27-2017, 03:53 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
27,623 posts, read 24,832,767 times
Reputation: 11185
Quote:
Originally Posted by KodeBlue View Post
I'm talking about REAL LIFE, not City-Data.
There's a real life poll that's more accurate than the C-D poll?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-27-2017, 03:55 PM
 
Location: Southeast TX
868 posts, read 1,357,887 times
Reputation: 886
Quote:
Originally Posted by MurphyKing54 View Post
My boy Knxwledge is from Philly, but yes, he's the epitome of what hip-hop is nowadays. He's insane, direct descendant of J Dilla himself. SZA, Earl Sweatshirt, Murs, Hopsin (he's honestly kinda corny, but he has bars/content), and the Black Hippy squad runs circles around ATL's whole shortbus camp.

LA will always be in the conversation of hip-hop, simply because they have Stones Throw and TDE. Stones Throw in itself is legendary for the culture.
Agreed. Didn't know Knxwledge was from Philly, thought he was from LA. Nxworries is my group him and Anderson.Pakk are my top artist now.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-27-2017, 03:58 PM
 
52,713 posts, read 75,602,776 times
Reputation: 11636
Quote:
Originally Posted by SenseSoCommon View Post
Hmm. Consdering I was answering someone else who clearly understood,,I dont see why you are responding if you dont understand me

It was very clear what I wrote.

I said when I brought it up that Rock is not so much anymore as is it is now what we call Pop.
Meaning its still around but its changed because its now mainstream.
You dont like that and that's fine but music evolves .This is not the first time that Hip hop has changed fundamentally. It wont be the last either.
Atlanta is the bridge is the way I see it

Personally I dont like most of the new stuff but I was never deep into most of the old hip hop when it first came out .

My thing was New jack Swing

Atlanta SAVED hip hop according to most people not named you.Sorry if thats too "wonky" for you
The NYC area was all over that as well(Guy/Teddy Riley/Aaron Hall, Today, Keith Sweat, Christopher Williams, etc.).
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-27-2017, 03:59 PM
 
Location: BMORE!
7,249 posts, read 5,548,685 times
Reputation: 3256
Quote:
Originally Posted by BajanYankee View Post
There's a real life poll that's more accurate than the C-D poll?
Concerning hiphop, absolutely. Real Life shows that NYC is washed up in the hiphop game; on C-D, it's 1998 all over again.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-27-2017, 03:59 PM
 
Location: Southeast TX
868 posts, read 1,357,887 times
Reputation: 886
Quote:
Originally Posted by KodeBlue View Post
They had a rapper in the group, and had a New Jack sound in the early 90s.
So, can all of them Rap? The only person in the group that could rap was Left Eye. IDK abut them being a rap group, I never herd them being referenced to one before. Always thought there were a R&B/Pop Group.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-27-2017, 03:59 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
27,623 posts, read 24,832,767 times
Reputation: 11185
Quote:
Originally Posted by SenseSoCommon View Post
problem is I see withso many of these NYC boosters is that most of what is said is baded on the past.
Muhammad Ali and Mike Tyson are also the past. Yet current fighters are not as famous as they are. How do you respond to that?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:

Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > General U.S. > City vs. City
Follow City-Data.com founder on our Forum or

All times are GMT -6.

2005-2018, Advameg, Inc.

City-Data.com - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35 - Top