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View Poll Results: More famous for hip hop?
Atlanta 61 22.26%
New York City 194 70.80%
Equal 19 6.93%
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Old 06-09-2017, 01:11 PM
 
Location: BMORE!
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Historically the answer is #1 NY #2 L.A #3 Atlanta

In today's time it's #1 Atlanta #2 L.A #3 NY

Arguably the best rappers out aren't even from Atlanta.

Drake ( Toronto )

Kendrick ( Compton )

J cole ( North Carolina )

We can argue Future and the Migos even though they're from Gwinett County.

But from 2000 - 12,Atlanta has been the biggest platform in hip hop.

In L.A we caught a ressuergence around 2013 with a few big heavy hitters.Dj Mustard,Nipsey,Kendrick,Yg,Ty dolla,
Schoolboy Q and couple others.

In NY,it's Young Ma & French Montana.Dave east is coming up too and Nicki Minaj isn't worth mentioning lol
How is NYC even top 3? That's a hellova reach.
ATL
CHI
LA
Toronto
MIA
Detroit
New Orleans
Philly

NYC barely makes top 10

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Old 06-09-2017, 01:15 PM
 
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Trap music and mumble is what's hot right now. See, NYC is stuck in 1998.
In 10 years people will look back and talk about just how much junk is coming out right now. Most of it will not have any staying power.

On the other hand, guys like NAS, Jay-Z, Biggie, A Tribe Called Quest, De La Soul, Wu Tang, Beastie Boys, etc. have that staying power and will always have that staying power.
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Old 06-09-2017, 01:20 PM
 
Location: BMORE!
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In 10 years people will look back and talk about just how much junk is coming out right now. Most of it will not have any staying power.

On the other hands, guys like NAS, Jay-Z, Biggie, A Tribe Called Quest, De La Soul, Wu Tang, Beastie Boys, etc. have that staying power and will always have that staying power.
That's the past, though. We're talking about today, in 2017, most people don't care what NYC rappers have to say. They aren't selling, and basically reduced to being one hit wonders, if they have a hit at all. The only NYC rappers that have any buzz at all is mimicking the south's style; French Montana is a classic example was mistaken for a southern rapper earlier in his career. If they aren't mimicking the south, or have a strong affiliation with southern rappers (Nicki Minaj), they wont eat.
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Old 06-09-2017, 03:27 PM
 
Location: NYC, VA, JP
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That's the past, though. We're talking about today, in 2017, most people don't care what NYC rappers have to say. They aren't selling, and basically reduced to being one hit wonders, if they have a hit at all. The only NYC rappers that have any buzz at all is mimicking the south's style; French Montana is a classic example was mistaken for a southern rapper earlier in his career. If they aren't mimicking the south, or have a strong affiliation with southern rappers (Nicki Minaj), they wont eat.
That's not what he's saying. No one is denying Atlanta is hot right now, but it has no depth or substance. It'll be looked back as an embarassing period in hip-hop that many won't miss. Whereas while NYC had its time, it's looked back as a golden age of hip-hop and a standard to adhere to. The only reason anyone would consider what's coming out of the South right now as the "golden age" is for financial/opportunistic purposes only, where anyone can pop up with garbage lyrics, a hard 808, repetitive melody, autotune, and make it. I'm not saying people like Migos and Future have "bad" music, sonically they sound good. But let's be real. They ain't really talking about much, and that kind of music only has momentary impact. It can barely be considered art. They're succeeding with their purpose, no doubt, but that purpose isn't art.

Aside from this, the main point of the thread is who is more famous for it universally. That is NYC, hands down. They built the property, and the South leased some office space. You can make your bread with the tools provided, but you can't knock the craftsmen who gave you the tools.
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Old 06-09-2017, 04:02 PM
 
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That's not what he's saying. No one is denying Atlanta is hot right now, but it has no depth or substance. It'll be looked back as an embarassing period in hip-hop that many won't miss. Whereas while NYC had its time, it's looked back as a golden age of hip-hop and a standard to adhere to. The only reason anyone would consider what's coming out of the South right now as the "golden age" is for financial/opportunistic purposes only, where anyone can pop up with garbage lyrics, a hard 808, repetitive melody, autotune, and make it. I'm not saying people like Migos and Future have "bad" music, sonically they sound good. But let's be real. They ain't really talking about much, and that kind of music only has momentary impact. It can barely be considered art. They're succeeding with their purpose, no doubt, but that purpose isn't art.

Aside from this, the main point of the thread is who is more famous for it universally. That is NYC, hands down. They built the property, and the South leased some office space. You can make your bread with the tools provided, but you can't knock the craftsmen who gave you the tools.
There were tons of acts from Atlanta during the "golden age" of hip-hop; the Dungeon Family alone accounts for ton of them alone. New Orleans had an even larger roster, houston, Miami just too many to list. So, the golden age isn't just NYC, not only that, but southern rappers didn't try to emulate NYC's style that way NYC is trying to emulate theirs. You may not like what you hear on the radio, but you deny to that the south runs hip-hop, and is most know for it present day. As fast as information spreads, through social media, you'd be lying to yourself to state otherwise. The south dictates what hip-hop now, the own the building, and apparently they don't let NYC rappers in iif they aren't accompanied by a southern artist..french, Nicki...the list is kind of short at the moment, so I can't think of that many.

We run hip-hop.
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Old 06-09-2017, 04:26 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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Have fun New Yorkers and Philadelphians.
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Old 06-09-2017, 05:18 PM
 
Location: NYC, VA, JP
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There were tons of acts from Atlanta during the "golden age" of hip-hop; the Dungeon Family alone accounts for ton of them alone. New Orleans had an even larger roster, houston, Miami just too many to list. So, the golden age isn't just NYC, not only that, but southern rappers didn't try to emulate NYC's style that way NYC is trying to emulate theirs. You may not like what you hear on the radio, but you deny to that the south runs hip-hop, and is most know for it present day. As fast as information spreads, through social media, you'd be lying to yourself to state otherwise. The south dictates what hip-hop now, the own the building, and apparently they don't let NYC rappers in iif they aren't accompanied by a southern artist..french, Nicki...the list is kind of short at the moment, so I can't think of that many.

We run hip-hop.
Hahahaha. I can't take any word you say seriously. Clear bias. Come off your high horse and give credit where credit's due. I gave the South its props, do your region a favor and deflate your chest a bit. Universally, NYC reigns supreme. We're not talking "right now", we're talking about the world's reference and introduction into the culture. That's always NYC. I go overseas and I ask them about hip-hop, they always mention Jay Z, Tupac, Nas, Biggie, Kanye West, Eminem, and Drake. In that order of frequency.

If you can't even admit that NYC set the precedent then you're painfully delusional. It's this attitude that gives the South a bad rep, tbh.
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Old 06-09-2017, 05:46 PM
 
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Hahahaha. I can't take any word you say seriously. Clear bias. Come off your high horse and give credit where credit's due. I gave the South its props, do your region a favor and deflate your chest a bit. Universally, NYC reigns supreme. We're not talking "right now", we're talking about the world's reference and introduction into the culture. That's always NYC. I go overseas and I ask them about hip-hop, they always mention Jay Z, Tupac, Nas, Biggie, Kanye West, Eminem, and Drake. In that order of frequency.

If you can't even admit that NYC set the precedent then you're painfully delusional. It's this attitude that gives the South a bad rep, tbh.
Can you define "Universally" in this context as it is such a vague term? Also, the rest of the world must be behind the times if they're naming any of the NYC artist that you've listen, considering the fact that the most recent album from any of them, which was Jay-z, was releases back in 2013, and is approaching 50 years old. Also, the south didn't complain when NYC rappers had their chests poked, crapping on the south. They also didn't complain back in the early 00's when it was painfully obvious that NYC had fallen off, yet The Source and XXL were writing 'when is NY rap coming back' articles every month. When NYC was running hip-hop, was their attitude a problem for you? It's ironic that you fight for NYC when your very own region, which is clearly in the south, is home to the two biggest Hip hop producers ever, and one of, if not, the biggest female rap artist ever.

Were telling people in NYC to get off of their high horse when NYC was on top?

Using your logic, should NYC genuflect to Chicago as creator of the skyscraper? You know, since it was Chicago that gave NYC its introduction to the skyscraper. I don't really see a lot of NYers thanking Chicago on this forum, or anywhere else for that matter.
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Old 06-09-2017, 05:57 PM
 
Location: City of Atlanta
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Has anyone mentioned Run the Jewels? Combo of one of the best from NY (El-P) and one of the best from ATL (Killer Mike).
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Old 06-09-2017, 06:16 PM
 
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Has anyone mentioned Run the Jewels? Combo of one of the best from NY (El-P) and one of the best from ATL (Killer Mike).
I just checked it out. I have something to blast while riding home tonight, thanks.
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