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Some new aerials of downtown Kansas City. KC is still on a different level than Indy as far as how urban it is. I took these photos.
KC's skyline seems twice as big as Indy. Also, Indy doesn't have a true second skyline like KC. Indy will need transit and streetcars to open up its vast expanse of decaying, crime riddled hoods from 3-7 miles from downtown.
KC has the better downtown as of today, but Indy has had a better downtown for almost two decades.
KC's skyline seems twice as big as Indy. Also, Indy doesn't have a true second skyline like KC. Indy will need transit and streetcars to open up its vast expanse of decaying, crime riddled hoods from 3-7 miles from downtown.
KC has the better downtown as of today, but Indy has had a better downtown for almost two decades.
KC wins for me too. And the pictures are very nice KCMO posted. KC's urban fabric and character exceed Indianapolis. Indianapolis has one of the least impressive skylines compared to peers.
KC wins for me too. And the pictures are very nice KCMO posted. KC's urban fabric and character exceed Indianapolis. Indianapolis has one of the least impressive skylines compared to peers.
Chicago's skyline is more impressive than Los Angeles and most people will think so what.
KC's skyline seems twice as big as Indy. Also, Indy doesn't have a true second skyline like KC. Indy will need transit and streetcars to open up its vast expanse of decaying, crime riddled hoods from 3-7 miles from downtown.
KC has the better downtown as of today, but Indy has had a better downtown for almost two decades.
KC does have a beautiful skyline, and great urban fabric.
Please back up your claim about Indy's crime-ridden neighborhood's that are 3-7 miles outward from downtown with comprehensive statistics, or edit your post. Also post data comparing this neighborhood associated crime comparing it wth peer cities. Another false claim from you about Indy. Also, Indy's downtown is developing at the same rapid pace it has for two decades....it's disingenuous to claim it's falling behind its peer cities. KC has always had better downtown "bonds" than Indy has. The gulf between these two cities should be far wider than it is.
Great photos, KCMO. It's a beautiful city. Indy's urban fabric will never catch up to KC's by virtue of being a much older, more esrtablished city. Since Indy's true peer cities are ones that developed post-automobile, it's an apples and oranges comparison between these two cities as it relates to built form. This, Indy has to find other ways to distinguish itself, which it has obviously done well at.
KC wins for me too. And the pictures are very nice KCMO posted. KC's urban fabric and character exceed Indianapolis. Indianapolis has one of the least impressive skylines compared to peers.
Indy overbuilt it's office towers in the late 80's and early 90's and hasn't fully recovered from that since. Thankfully much of the old surface parking is gone and new proposals are getting more vertical height, which should help.
KC does have a beautiful skyline, and great urban fabric.
Please back up your claim about Indy's crime-ridden neighborhood's that are 3-7 miles outward from downtown with comprehensive statistics, or edit your post. Also post data comparing this neighborhood associated crime comparing it wth peer cities. Another false claim from you about Indy. Also, Indy's downtown is developing at the same rapid pace it has for two decades....it's disingenuous to claim it's falling behind its peer cities. KC has always had better downtown "bonds" than Indy has. The gulf between these two cities should be far wider than it is.
Indy's development has a "ring of fire pattern." That 2 to 3-7 mile radius has dozens of homes listed for under 10,000. Granted, it's true lots of cities have this, but often it is isolated to one side of town. In Indy, the problem is there is downtown, and then the ghetto is everywhere else, until the suburbs. You know very well this is true, and you attack me because I expose this truth.
The other thing that is interesting is Indy has some suburbs which are pretty bad like near Lawrence. That is almost mini Chicagoesque. Crime in Indy has been a serious problem for years.
And as nice as downtown is, there are muggings, stabbings, shootings, with some regularity. Anecdotally, I almost got mugged outside the Westin last month after a wedding when a guy followed me, demanding money. I am in Indy all the time for work. The south Meridian bar and wholesale bar district has gotten really hood. That was a great scene just 5 years ago.
Indy had twice the downtown of KC 10 years ago. Now, it's a dead heat, but I'd say KC has the edge due to streetcars, and frankly, twice the historic urban building density (even if Indy has more downtown population), especially just south of downtown. Indy has a very suburban development pattern and feel. It's like it was built to be a big city but feels suburban and low density. Much of downtown Indy is filled with 4-10 story cheaply constructed crap like Artistry or Nine on Canal....these buildings will look like crap in 50 years. I'm not singling out Indy for this.... the further south you go, more cities have even more of these particle board crap apartment complexes.
And since I am "biased" and you attribute quotes to me that I do not say, you can attack your local Indy neighbors who agree:
"and then the ghetto is everywhere else, until the suburbs"
You lost me right there...
You really are clueless, aren't you?
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