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Old 06-21-2017, 06:27 PM
 
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Basically aside from your racial opinion, this is the future.
Mind control is a powerful drug...
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Old 06-21-2017, 06:29 PM
 
Location: Cannes
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Facts are much more powerful
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Old 06-21-2017, 06:33 PM
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Location: Saint Paul, MN
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Given that this is Texas (and the South), those number dont represent diversity. Its still a majority white city...

Also the numbers i got were (48% White, 35% Latino, 6% Black & 5% Asian), some sources even say above 50% white...IDK
I'm no fan of Austin but.. how in the world is it not diverse? Its not even majority white. Even 50% isn't the majority. And you can certainly be majority white and still be diverse..

True, Austin has few black people compared to other southern cities especially Houston, New Orleans and Atlanta, but its got plenty of diversity as it is.

People are so obsessed with diversity, though. I don't see how "lack of diversity" means a place is not liveable, whether its true or not. I'm pretty sure safety, affordability and unemployment make a place more liveable than the ethnic origins of the neighbours.
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Old 06-21-2017, 07:39 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Here is the deal. Austin is a great city in its own right. I love going there but it doesnt even bother trying to cater to a wide variety of people. Its like that city that was specifically made for liberal white people. Like a white people paradise. Thats not to say that Austin has diversity, it does. But the city caters so hard to liberal whites, its comical. Im liberal myself and I find it somewhat funny.

Compare that to Dallas and Houston which, on the whole, have things for everyone. They are much more diverse cities on every level. Hell, Austin isnt even the "gayest" city in Texas, Dallas is.

The funny thing to me is that people from Austin always tend to hate on Dallas for being pretentious. Austin is every bit as pretentious as Dallas but just in a different way.

They hate on Houston, but they would be lucky to have our food, diversity, and international nature.

Does Austin have the best nightlife in Texas? Maybe. Its certainly the most recognized. But its not better at everything. Houston has a much more diverse nightlife and Dallas has a better gay nightlife.

The OP sounds white and liberal, so I can see why hed like it. Most white liberals do. African-Americans tend to hate it. Youll find almost no African Americans that find Austin tolerant. You should ask them why.
I cannot speak for Austin now and all of its tremendous growth; however, I would not go so far as to say that Austin nightlife has been the best in Texas (the live venues maybe), but instead more concentrated. I guess it is also subjective to the type of nightlife one prefers. When I lived there in the late 80's/early 90's, I frequented many of the nightclubs (Curfew/Mirage, Planetarium, Library, LL/Numbers) which were actually modeled more after the ones in Houston (Ocean Club, Club 6400, Decadance, Power Tools, Netwerk, D2r, Avalon, and many similar clones) and post-Starck Club Dallas venues at the time. The club at 404 Colorado was once named the Lizard Lounge and later Numbers which were already club names found in the larger sister cities.

For Austinites, the Austin nightlife scene then was more of a close-knit community/lifestyle, whereas people would often flock to the bigger cities (even to Bonham Exchange in San Antonio) to experience nightlife on a grander scale. That's not to say that Austin didn't have its own unique nightclub establishments and attract others from the larger cities. It was actually a blast. One of my favorite clubs ever was Backstreet/Basics (subsequently Ohms) on 7th Street. A lot of the love for the nightlife scene back then in Texas had to do with the exposure and focus on obscure dance music at the time. But, that didn't start in Austin - rather Starck in Dallas and Ocean Club/6400 in Houston, and radio's willingness to latch onto this and provide it to the masses.

For music junkies, you can listen to live radio broadcasts from Houston clubs during that era:

https://www.mixcloud.com/djrage/93q-...-march-1-1991/

https://www.mixcloud.com/djrage/d2r-...8-1990-1-of-6/

https://www.mixcloud.com/djrage/93q-...0-july-2-1988/

https://www.mixcloud.com/djrage/93q-...0-june-5-1988/

https://www.mixcloud.com/krogers/640...adcast-on-93q/

https://www.mixcloud.com/djrage/netw...9-1989-1-of-6/

https://archive.org/details/6400Live...RadioDrops.mp3

https://archive.org/details/DV8LiveO...%5D+1+of+6.mp3

https://www.mixcloud.com/djrage/netw...ruary-17-1990/

https://www.mixcloud.com/djrage/the-...april-19-1991/

https://www.mixcloud.com/djrage/dv8-...nuary-20-1991/

https://www.mixcloud.com/djrage/dang...7-1990-1-of-2/

https://www.mixcloud.com/djrage/netw...6-1990-3-of-3/

https://www.mixcloud.com/djrage/powe...ember-26-1988/

https://www.mixcloud.com/djrage/deto...april-12-1991/

https://www.mixcloud.com/djrage/deto...93q-4-13-1991/
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Old 06-21-2017, 09:27 PM
 
Location: Willowbend/Houston
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Facts are much more powerful
Excuse me? I haven't seen any sort of facts you've provided, just your opinions. Thats fine, but you dont get to claim some sort of statistical high ground.
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Old 06-21-2017, 09:36 PM
 
Location: DFW
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We all know the fame Austin has; a city a bit too liberal to be in Texas and a city of innovation and arts. Almost every list has Austin ranked pretty high for livability and jobs. Some call Austin the silicon valley of Texas. So with all this praise Austin has received, do you think Houston, Dallas and San Antonio will follow its footsteps
Austin brings a nice bit of balance to Texas.
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Old 06-21-2017, 09:38 PM
 
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The reason that Austin is popular is because it caters to the demographic of white upper middle class recent college grads. Look at the other popular cities: Seattle, Portland, Denver, Nashville, etc. All white-washed with new glass buildings, craft breweries, local coffee shops, and manufactured urbanity.
What is .... manufactured urbanity vs. a not manufactured one? I mean, what then is not ---> manufactured urbanity for a Houston then? As if it infill's more urban as the inner-loop is. Certainly, not much of a older urbanity there....
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Old 06-21-2017, 10:03 PM
 
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You have never been to Austin
You probably never went to Houston or Dallas, or you would know that both cities are far more diverse than Austin or San Antonio. Houston is one of the most diverse places in America. We have people from all over the world. San Antonio has white and Mexican, that's about it. Austin is similar, but a lot more white.
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Old 06-21-2017, 10:47 PM
 
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I cannot speak for Austin now and all of its tremendous growth; however, I would not go so far as to say that Austin nightlife has been the best in Texas (the live venues maybe), but instead more concentrated. I guess it is also subjective to the type of nightlife one prefers. When I lived there in the late 80's/early 90's, I frequented many of the nightclubs (Curfew/Mirage, Planetarium, Library, LL/Numbers) which were actually modeled more after the ones in Houston (Ocean Club, Club 6400, Decadance, Power Tools, Netwerk, D2r, Avalon, and many similar clones) and post-Starck Club Dallas venues at the time. The club at 404 Colorado was once named the Lizard Lounge and later Numbers which were already club names found in the larger sister cities.

For Austinites, the Austin nightlife scene then was more of a close-knit community/lifestyle, whereas people would often flock to the bigger cities (even to Bonham Exchange in San Antonio) to experience nightlife on a grander scale. That's not to say that Austin didn't have its own unique nightclub establishments and attract others from the larger cities. It was actually a blast. One of my favorite clubs ever was Backstreet/Basics (subsequently Ohms) on 7th Street. A lot of the love for the nightlife scene back then in Texas had to do with the exposure and focus on obscure dance music at the time. But, that didn't start in Austin - rather Starck in Dallas and Ocean Club/6400 in Houston, and radio's willingness to latch onto this and provide it to the masses.

For music junkies, you can listen to live radio broadcasts from Houston clubs during that era:

https://www.mixcloud.com/djrage/93q-...-march-1-1991/

https://www.mixcloud.com/djrage/d2r-...8-1990-1-of-6/

https://www.mixcloud.com/djrage/93q-...0-july-2-1988/

https://www.mixcloud.com/djrage/93q-...0-june-5-1988/

https://www.mixcloud.com/krogers/640...adcast-on-93q/

https://www.mixcloud.com/djrage/netw...9-1989-1-of-6/

https://archive.org/details/6400Live...RadioDrops.mp3

https://archive.org/details/DV8LiveO...%5D+1+of+6.mp3

https://www.mixcloud.com/djrage/netw...ruary-17-1990/

https://www.mixcloud.com/djrage/the-...april-19-1991/

https://www.mixcloud.com/djrage/dv8-...nuary-20-1991/

https://www.mixcloud.com/djrage/dang...7-1990-1-of-2/

https://www.mixcloud.com/djrage/netw...6-1990-3-of-3/

https://www.mixcloud.com/djrage/powe...ember-26-1988/

https://www.mixcloud.com/djrage/deto...april-12-1991/

https://www.mixcloud.com/djrage/deto...93q-4-13-1991/
6400 was a clone. Xcess and Numbers had far better music scenes in my opinion.
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Old 06-21-2017, 11:01 PM
 
Location: Nashville, TN
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The reason that Austin is popular is because it caters to the demographic of white upper middle class recent college grads. Look at the other popular cities: Seattle, Portland, Denver, Nashville, etc. All white-washed with new glass buildings, craft breweries, local coffee shops, and manufactured urbanity.
I agree.
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