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View Poll Results: Which one do you prefer
Providence 42 57.53%
Louisvllle 31 42.47%
Voters: 73. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-29-2017, 10:07 PM
 
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You're honestly going to contest that Providence is older with more history? Louisville isn't Charlotte but it isn't Providence either when it comes to history.

Providence's urban core also is much more intact than Louisville's, Louisville as 2 census tracts denser than Providence as a city, with a grand total of 6,500 people. Providence has a much denser and more urban core. These are not bias's they are facts.
Yes and no....for a city south of the Mason Dixon Louisville's CORE is still very dense and intact. And yes this includes the urban core of New Albany and Jeffersonville, IN. This was a very dense 19th century metropolis complete with elevated rail and everything it brought with it (sadly long gone).

The only part of Louisville destroyed was a small ring around downtown....this ring lies about a 1 mile radius outside downtown and about half the historic structures in the ring were destroyed....but you fail to tell the reason why.

In 1937 Louisville had a devastating flood, as bad as or worse than Katrina, that devastated 60% of the city and its structures. There were also two major tornado events which did similar in 1890 and 1974.

You guys are acting like Louisville is like Wichita and that's a joke and you know it.
Providence and Louisville are about as close to twins as possible in terms of size, feel, density, amenities, you name it. To act like Louisville is inferior to Providence is at best misinformed and at worst, extremely pompous.
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Old 07-30-2017, 07:49 AM
 
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Yes and no....for a city south of the Mason Dixon Louisville's CORE is still very dense and intact. And yes this includes the urban core of New Albany and Jeffersonville, IN. This was a very dense 19th century metropolis complete with elevated rail and everything it brought with it (sadly long gone).

The only part of Louisville destroyed was a small ring around downtown....this ring lies about a 1 mile radius outside downtown and about half the historic structures in the ring were destroyed....but you fail to tell the reason why.

In 1937 Louisville had a devastating flood, as bad as or worse than Katrina, that devastated 60% of the city and its structures. There were also two major tornado events which did similar in 1890 and 1974.

You guys are acting like Louisville is like Wichita and that's a joke and you know it.
Providence and Louisville are about as close to twins as possible in terms of size, feel, density, amenities, you name it. To act like Louisville is inferior to Providence is at best misinformed and at worst, extremely pompous.
What you are saying is false, Providence has 180,000 people in 18.5 square miles, the neighboring towns of Pawtucket and Central Falls have a Density of 8,100 and 16,900, with a combined population of 90,000. That's an overall density of the 3 cities of 9,530 ppsm over 28.5 square miles. Louisville has 2 census tracts denser than the inner 28.5 sq miles of metro Providence.

While on Sports and entertainment options, food (depends on preference), and Art they are comparable Providence is more urban and denser than Louisville.
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Old 07-30-2017, 03:50 PM
 
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Providence has a very regal look and the historical architecture and urban fabric are intact.
Providence is simply more beautiful in every way.
No it does not. And how is Louisville not beautiful? I have visited both cities, but am more familiar with Louisville. Providence is no utopia like you claim, and not simply more beautiful. I need receipts....

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L'ville has a certain small city, blue collar charm - but it is levels below Providence's beauty.
Again, I need receipts...[/quote]
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Old 07-30-2017, 10:15 PM
 
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No it does not. And how is Louisville not beautiful? I have visited both cities, but am more familiar with Louisville. Providence is no utopia like you claim, and not simply more beautiful. I need receipts....



Again, I need receipts...
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Louisville has been larger and more urban than Providence for nearly its entire history. Providence is only denser because it historically was a tiny cit..less than 20 sq miles:

https://www.census.gov/population/ww...0027/tab08.txt

Louisville passed Providence in 1850 and never looked back. What's more, Louisville's very dense and urban falls city of New Albany, IN was larger than any surrounding Providence town such as North Providence.

Let's look at 1940:

https://www.census.gov/population/ww...0027/tab17.txt

Louisville is still bigger. By 1990 Louisville's city population had declined dramatically as people fled for the suburbs and the 70s and 80s were the worst economic times in the city's history as many old buildings got torn down as it transitioned from an industrial city. Still, it was one of America's largest cities...Providence was no where to be found:

https://www.census.gov/population/ww...0027/tab22.txt

When UPS arrived some three decades ago, Louisville's economy transitioned and since 2000, the city has excelled and become a knowledge based economy focused on distribution, logistics, and healthcare, with a minor in advanced manufacturing and tourism. The last two years have seen more growth and economic activity than the city has seen since the great flood of 1937. It's no exaggeration when I tell you cranes are up everywhere!

Louisville's old city limits still have 250k plus people. City to city it looks and feels larger than Providence. Providence did a better job preserving its history and thus retains a small european village feel. Louisville tore down more and much of that was due to natural disasters, but also racists policies of the post war era

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Old 07-30-2017, 10:17 PM
 
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Historic photos of Louisville Kentucky - Historic Photos Of Louisville Kentucky And Environs

Please look at these photos. Tell me that is not a dense city! Pay special attention to the Masonic Widows and Orphan home. Also note the elevated electric trains and their stations! Look at the fist photo which shows the 19th century metropolis that surrounded the Falls of the Ohio.

Sadly, the great flood of 37, two tornados, and the industrial decline cost the city alot of these charming buildings, but there is still at least 70% left. It's dense, urban, and very cool. It's just the edges of downtown which really got urban renewed away and gives the casual visitor a false impression about the density of the city.

After seeing these photos, one may wonder why Louisville is not as big as Atlanta or Dallas today. There is a long story behind all that and it is very fascinating.
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Old 07-31-2017, 06:16 AM
 
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Louisville has been larger and more urban than Providence for nearly its entire history. Providence is only denser because it historically was a tiny cit..less than 20 sq miles:

https://www.census.gov/population/ww...0027/tab08.txt

Louisville passed Providence in 1850 and never looked back. What's more, Louisville's very dense and urban falls city of New Albany, IN was larger than any surrounding Providence town such as North Providence.

Let's look at 1940:

https://www.census.gov/population/ww...0027/tab17.txt

Louisville is still bigger. By 1990 Louisville's city population had declined dramatically as people fled for the suburbs and the 70s and 80s were the worst economic times in the city's history as many old buildings got torn down as it transitioned from an industrial city. Still, it was one of America's largest cities...Providence was no where to be found:

https://www.census.gov/population/ww...0027/tab22.txt

When UPS arrived some three decades ago, Louisville's economy transitioned and since 2000, the city has excelled and become a knowledge based economy focused on distribution, logistics, and healthcare, with a minor in advanced manufacturing and tourism. The last two years have seen more growth and economic activity than the city has seen since the great flood of 1937. It's no exaggeration when I tell you cranes are up everywhere!

Louisville's old city limits still have 250k plus people. City to city it looks and feels larger than Providence. Providence did a better job preserving its history and thus retains a small european village feel. Louisville tore down more and much of that was due to natural disasters, but also racists policies of the post war era[/quote]


They're urban area's are about the same size Providence is actually bigger. Louisville has the advantage of being completely independent city while Providence is an hour from Boston, which helps economically but hurts for the image.

In Louisville, Cranston, Warwick and Pawtucket would just be neighborhoods instead of independent cities but they are part of the same cohesive core.

Louisville also benefits from having a national event in the Kentucky Derby. There isn't an annual event where the nation looks at Providence.
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