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Old 07-02-2017, 01:30 PM
 
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They're both extremely car-centric despite their density. The commute share numbers are horrible in both cases.

(But yeah, funny that people try to change the subject vs. arguing or agreeing with the point sometimes!)
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Old 07-02-2017, 02:39 PM
 
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As said, Los Angeles is probably doing the most to catch up to other major cities in terms of metro systems. It will take a while but by say 2024 when they get the LAX direct rail and consolidated rental car shuttle up and running, it will be very competitive.

Behind that, probably Atlanta. MARTA is underrated, IMHO. Then Miami, then Dallas then the rest.

If Denver was on the list I would put that as #2 behind L.A.
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Old 07-02-2017, 02:57 PM
 
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Why would anyone push at this at this point in time. The autonomous vehicles are on the way and will change all the rules. Suddenly you want concrete lanes not track. Jitneys running 20 feet apart in continuous streams...breaking off to serve local area with last mile service.

Going to be a different world.
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Old 07-02-2017, 03:34 PM
 
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How would you rank each of the cities below in their respective transportation endeavors?
- Atlanta, Dallas, Houston, Las Vegas, Los Angeles, Miami, New Orleans, Orlando and Phoenix.
I would not visit any of these cities without renting a car as by and large their transit options pale in comparison to cities like Boston, NYC, DC, Philly and Chicago.

LA has been expanding their rail network by a large margin, but the sheer physical size of the city and it metro area make it tough to fully rely on transit, imo.

I would rank them like this:

Los Angeles
Atlanta
Dallas
Houston
Phoenix
Orlando
New Orleans
Las Vegas
Miami

Considering how large an area South Florida is, their transit options are a joke.
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Old 07-02-2017, 04:01 PM
 
Location: Placitas, New Mexico
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Far and far away it's LA.
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Old 07-03-2017, 12:31 AM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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How would you rank each of the cities below in their respective transportation endeavors?
- Atlanta, Dallas, Houston, Las Vegas, Los Angeles, Miami, New Orleans, Orlando and Phoenix.
New Orleans is not a Sunbelt city and never saw the kind of growth that Houston and Dallas has seen. It probably has the most urban feel of any Southern city and has an extensive public transporation network. The streetcars are famous and many run 24 hours a day. New Orleans probably has more walkable neighborhoods than any city in the South.
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Old 07-03-2017, 02:41 AM
 
Location: Nashville, TN
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New Orleans is not a Sunbelt city and never saw the kind of growth that Houston and Dallas has seen. It probably has the most urban feel of any Southern city and has an extensive public transporation network. The streetcars are famous and many run 24 hours a day. New Orleans probably has more walkable neighborhoods than any city in the South.
Can a sunbelt city not be urban, or are Miami and Los Angeles exceptions?
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Old 07-03-2017, 08:59 AM
 
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New Orleans is not a Sunbelt city and never saw the kind of growth that Houston and Dallas has seen. It probably has the most urban feel of any Southern city and has an extensive public transporation network. The streetcars are famous and many run 24 hours a day. New Orleans probably has more walkable neighborhoods than any city in the South.
I say it like this: New Orleans is in the Sunbelt, but not of the Sunbelt.
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Old 07-03-2017, 01:13 PM
 
Location: San Antonio
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I say it like this: New Orleans is in the Sunbelt, but not of the Sunbelt.
I'd say it's still of the Sunbelt. I don't know why people here like to pretend that the city is nothing more than Uptown and the French Quarter. Outside of those areas you still have the same suburban sprawl and autocentric layout that is characteristic of the region; bad public trans included. It may not be as large as other cities but neither is Memphis, Birmingham, etc.
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Old 07-03-2017, 01:57 PM
 
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I would not visit any of these cities without renting a car as by and large their transit options pale in comparison to cities like Boston, NYC, DC, Philly and Chicago.

LA has been expanding their rail network by a large margin, but the sheer physical size of the city and it metro area make it tough to fully rely on transit, imo.

I would rank them like this:

Los Angeles
Atlanta
Dallas
Houston
Phoenix
Orlando
New Orleans
Las Vegas
Miami

Considering how large an area South Florida is, their transit options are a joke.

The joke is how low you ranked the Miami area on your list. Do I really have to list all the transit options that South Florida has? More than half the areas on that list have nothing to even compare to the scale of what's down there already, not to mention the massive transit projects they're building there as we speak. The population density alone compared to these other areas makes transit much easier. I'm sure someone else can chime in on how ridiculous your ranking is.

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