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Old 07-18-2017, 09:40 AM
 
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For what it's worth, the concept of adaptation must be taken into account:

-While those Southeastern US cities like Houston, NOLA, Miami, etc certainly are more hot an humid than northern cities, those cities also have larger relative composition base of peoples adapted to heat and humidity in the climate compared to Northern areas. (i.e. Blacks, Latin Americans, and/or Southern Asians).

-The Southeastern US cities often feature building designs and technology adapted for heat and humidity, so as to offer relief, compared to Northern cities. A/C is an obvious example, but also high roofs, bright colors, energy efficient design, etc.

-In general, the South has more impressive tree canopies and lushness than the North, due to greater annual rainfall + longer growing seasons. This means that the cities of the South have more shade.
Actually, the northern cities are denser and has taller buildings, so you got shade from the building. The new Southern cities are full of scorching parking lots.
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Old 07-18-2017, 09:44 AM
 
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??That's the coolest part of the continental US in the summer
wow. in my mind i always see l.a. as the hottest place in the country.
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Old 07-18-2017, 10:20 AM
 
Location: South Padre Island, TX
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Your first point makes no sense. You provide no scientific basis for your racial assumptions and even if they were true, the Northeast has massive amounts of these same populations.
There is indeed basis to the claim. First, look at the areas of Earth that feature hot, humid climates. Next, look at the types of people there. Then, you'll see that they fall into three camps: Latin American, African, or Southern Asian. Those will be indeed the demographics most adapted to such warm climates.

Northeastern cities do indeed have large amounts of those populations, no doubt, but those Southern cities I mention have larger relative compositions of those populations.

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Actually, the northern cities are denser and has taller buildings, so you got shade from the building. The new Southern cities are full of scorching parking lots.
The better growing climate in the Southern cities allows for more vegetation to cover parking lots and buildings, easing the UHI effect, compared to cities up North.
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Old 07-18-2017, 11:35 AM
 
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The better growing climate in the Southern cities allows for more vegetation to cover parking lots and buildings, easing the UHI effect, compared to cities up North.
Trees cost money and space so most parking lots are barebones. Big trees can grow fine and big in Northern climate.
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Old 07-18-2017, 12:00 PM
 
Location: South Padre Island, TX
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Trees cost money and space so most parking lots are barebones. Big trees can grow fine and big in Northern climate.
And with the better growing climate of the South, the few trees that are planted grow very strong and robust, with enough proximity to provide strong tree-canopy (or will do so rather quickly); don't forget also the many vines/lianas (more present in warm climates than cold ones) that can be used to cover buildings.

Northern climates get too cold in winter, and don't get as heavy of storms during summer; the growing climate there just isn't as good as in the South.
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Old 07-18-2017, 01:19 PM
 
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And with the better growing climate of the South, the few trees that are planted grow very strong and robust, with enough proximity to provide strong tree-canopy (or will do so rather quickly); don't forget also the many vines/lianas (more present in warm climates than cold ones) that can be used to cover buildings.

Northern climates get too cold in winter, and don't get as heavy of storms during summer; the growing climate there just isn't as good as in the South.
The north get plenty of rain in the summer. Tree in the north is as big as in the South. There are plenty of vines in the North. Did you actually even been to Northern city?
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Old 07-18-2017, 03:32 PM
 
Location: South Padre Island, TX
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The north get plenty of rain in the summer. Tree in the north is as big as in the South. There are plenty of vines in the North. Did you actually even been to Northern city?
Northern cities don't get summer rains like Southern cities. The warmer the climate, the more seasonal precipitation becomes: in humid regions, this leads to a monsoonal trend, where the bulk of rain falls in the warm season. Just compare Tampa, FL with Boston, MA to see what I mean:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tampa,_Florida
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston

The Northern trees aren't robust like those down South. Too much cold in winter limits the growth. Find me a northern city with a tree like this:
https://goo.gl/iLnXwr

And most vines are from tropical/subtropical regions like the South.
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Old 07-18-2017, 03:55 PM
 
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And with the better growing climate of the South, the few trees that are planted grow very strong and robust, with enough proximity to provide strong tree-canopy (or will do so rather quickly); don't forget also the many vines/lianas (more present in warm climates than cold ones) that can be used to cover buildings.

Northern climates get too cold in winter, and don't get as heavy of storms during summer; the growing climate there just isn't as good as in the South.
It has far more to do with Density than tree growth. It's just Boston is 4x Denser than Atlanta is the limiting factor in the tree canopie not the climate.
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Old 07-18-2017, 04:16 PM
 
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Stupid list. New Orleans and Houston should be #1 and 2
Years ago a deodorant company disclosed Houston was the sweatiest city in the USA. Guess it depends on who commissions the study.
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Old 07-18-2017, 04:18 PM
 
Location: St. Louis Park, MN
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Trees cost money and space so most parking lots are barebones. Big trees can grow fine and big in Northern climate.

The trees in Minnesota grow taller on average than any trees I've seen in the southeast. They don't compare to the evergreens on the west coast, though, but much of the west coast even half of California, is pretty far north as well. The idea that southern cities are lush and northern cities aren't is ridiculous. Lushness in America is defined by longitude not latitude. If anything, the colder weather and larger contrast in seasons might propel trees to grow taller than in the south. The south is not the Amazon rainforest by any means.
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